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Independent 6460 (30-06-07)/Nimrod – Not cobblers!

Posted by neildubya on July 6th, 2007

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Quite often, when I’m solving a puzzle that I’ll be blogging later on, I fill in answers which I’m reasonably sure are right and then think, “I’ll work out the wordplay when I write up my blog”. This doesn’t always work with Nimrod though – I managed to complete the grid but there were a few bits and pieces that I didn’t understand when I was solving and still don’t get now I’m blogging. If anyone can help with 1/9A, 10A, 13A (maybe), 3D, that would be much appreciated.

Across
1/9 (LICENSEE BANS NONE)* – if “old lords” is the definition, what is the “getting last order” bit about?
5 hidden in “establishinG LINKAge” – nicely done I thought. I knew the composer somehow but couldn’t name any of his compositions.
10 SKATES – the definition is easy enough to spot (a ref to the phrase “put your skates on”) but what on earth does “WI music’s educated issue” mean?
12 I,LO,PILLAG(e)< – GALLIPOLI looks like it might have lots of clueing options and I like what Nimrod has done with it here.
13 PROEM – which means an introduction or preface but I can’t see the wordplay here. Faldo and Tarbuck would form a PRO-AM golf team so “vocal variation” must mean changing the A to an E? Or maybe just pronouncing it differently?
18 TROUSER-PRESS – amusing, but not taxing, cryptic definition.
21 NIM,BI – excellent clue. “We signal unfair conditions” is a great definition for the plural of Nimbus (a type of cloud). NIM is an old game and “batting for both sides” is slang for BI(sexual).
25/27 (ONES MISREAD A PART)* – “nervous” as an anagram indicator? Not sure about that.
26 (EYES)* in G,R – not the most convincing surface reading you’ll ever come across.
 
Down
1 NAG in ALE – a fairly obscure word I think but the wordplay isn’t too tricky. That said, I did spend some time thinking that “horse” might be GG.
2 COBBLE(rs) – a “paver” can mean a stone you pave with, not just somebody who paves.
3 ELEMI – I don’t understand the “pharmaceutical description of pure honey” bit here.
4 NO-SCORE DRAWS – which would be written as 0-0 and which might be said to look like a pair of spectacles.
6 EP in KO in (STEAL)< – the LAKE POETS were Wordsworth, Coleridge and Southey.
11 (TRUE BORN)* in WINE
16/17 STANDING ROOM ONLY – a STAND IN GROOM might be a bride’s second choice.
19 NOT,TUM (going up) – as in “mutton dressed as lamb”.
20 JESS,I,E – I got this from the definition and without really understanding how JESS came into it but the dictionary explains it.

4 Responses to “Independent 6460 (30-06-07)/Nimrod – Not cobblers!”

  1. Testy says:

    I didn’t do this puzzle but I’m guessing 10A is SKA(type of music orignating in the West Indes “WI”) + TES(Times Educational Supplement) not sure about the

    3D Pharmaceutical may be E (as in the drug); “description of” might possibly be an anagram indicator and MIEL is French and Spanish for honey???? Not entirely conclusive or satisfactory though!

  2. beermagnet says:

    I reckon 3D is I.E. for “that is” with MEL being latin for honey (“pharmaceutical description” – are all or most pharmaceuticals in latin?) all written up.
    I think you’re right with PROEM for 13A (now I’ve looked it up) but I put in pro-am thinking it might be coerced into a non-hypenated word.
    Can’t help with 1A/9A.

  3. nmsindy says:

    ELEMI That was a very long clue for a five-letter word, but when I looked up the dictionary it fitted the definition. I’d first pencilled in PROAM but changed to PROEM. Not got the puzzle now, but my recollection is there was something in the clue that gave that instruction (an E for an A). SKA TES I understood as Testy has explained above.

  4. nmsindy says:

    Have the puzzle now – the clue for 13 across was “With vocal variation, such as Faldo and Tarbuck’s introduction” Introduction does look like the definition, if you look at the rest of the wording so I think Neil W is right it’s a change in sound. Without thinking too much about it, I thought it meant a change in vowel, but “vocal” does not quite fit this. The enumeration (5) points towards PROEM also.

    Re 1/9, I think “last order” was introduced because of the surface context involving a licensee. But “getting in last order before revolution” is just about OK as indicating the anagram with the wording chosen to fit the word. I found the NW and SE corners difficult with 16-letter anagrams and not quite as much connection between the four quadrants of the grid as sometimes.

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