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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 24127/Rover – holi shaman!</title>
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	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
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		<title>By: petebiddlecombe</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/07/12/guardian-24127rover-%e2%80%93-holi-shaman/#comment-3016</link>
		<dc:creator>petebiddlecombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Lavengro: older Grauniad solvers will recall a setter of this name c. 25 years ago - no idea who he or she was.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lavengro: older Grauniad solvers will recall a setter of this name c. 25 years ago &#8211; no idea who he or she was.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Managed to guestimate the willow reference from Yeats&#039; &quot;Sally Gardens&quot; - left me with a nice warm smug feeling even after I gave up on finishing.

I&#039;m sure &quot;to kettle&quot; is a verb (i.e to cook in a kettle), which makes 20d a simple (but unsatisfying) double definition - &quot;it&#039;s put  on&quot; and &quot;to get warm&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Managed to guestimate the willow reference from Yeats&#8217; &#8220;Sally Gardens&#8221; &#8211; left me with a nice warm smug feeling even after I gave up on finishing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure &#8220;to kettle&#8221; is a verb (i.e to cook in a kettle), which makes 20d a simple (but unsatisfying) double definition &#8211; &#8220;it&#8217;s put  on&#8221; and &#8220;to get warm&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ilancaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilancaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3d: ref. Yankee Doodle dandy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3d: ref. Yankee Doodle dandy</p>
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		<title>By: radchenko</title>
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		<dc:creator>radchenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, but you do put the a kettle on, and in doing so it does, or you make it, get warm... But I agree, it&#039;s nearly a good clue but doesn&#039;t quite work.

I didn&#039;t much care for 25ac and especially not 11ac. For the latter, once you have the crossing letters it is sort of obvious, but the reference is so obscure. Completely unlike 21ac, which was quite clever.

Any explanation for 3dn? I have MACARONI but it is a wild stab in the dark.

Still after the Paston Letters and now Lovengro, it is quite an education this week...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but you do put the a kettle on, and in doing so it does, or you make it, get warm&#8230; But I agree, it&#8217;s nearly a good clue but doesn&#8217;t quite work.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t much care for 25ac and especially not 11ac. For the latter, once you have the crossing letters it is sort of obvious, but the reference is so obscure. Completely unlike 21ac, which was quite clever.</p>
<p>Any explanation for 3dn? I have MACARONI but it is a wild stab in the dark.</p>
<p>Still after the Paston Letters and now Lovengro, it is quite an education this week&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[22A and 20D - I agree with ilancaron. Furthermore I don&#039;t put my kettle on to get me or it warm - don&#039;t like tepid tea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>22A and 20D &#8211; I agree with ilancaron. Furthermore I don&#8217;t put my kettle on to get me or it warm &#8211; don&#8217;t like tepid tea.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Hodgkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick Hodgkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bottleneck - one of half a dozen clues I failed to get here - is rather good, and plays on two slightly different meanings of nerve. If you have bottle, you&#039;re brave, but if you&#039;ve got neck (often &#039;brass neck&#039;) you&#039;re being cheeky - it&#039;s more like &quot;you&#039;ve got a bloody nerve, you have!&quot; Like chutzpah, perhaps? Or does that carry more positive connotations?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottleneck &#8211; one of half a dozen clues I failed to get here &#8211; is rather good, and plays on two slightly different meanings of nerve. If you have bottle, you&#8217;re brave, but if you&#8217;ve got neck (often &#8216;brass neck&#8217;) you&#8217;re being cheeky &#8211; it&#8217;s more like &#8220;you&#8217;ve got a bloody nerve, you have!&#8221; Like chutzpah, perhaps? Or does that carry more positive connotations?</p>
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		<title>By: Shirley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1 Dn Sandwich is a links Golf Course in Kent where the Open is played from time to time.
14 Dn - Norma is an opera by Bellini, and another name for a hill is a tor]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 Dn Sandwich is a links Golf Course in Kent where the Open is played from time to time.<br />
14 Dn &#8211; Norma is an opera by Bellini, and another name for a hill is a tor</p>
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		<title>By: conradcork</title>
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		<dc:creator>conradcork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The king&#039;s retainers are the people who are holding (retaining) him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The king&#8217;s retainers are the people who are holding (retaining) him.</p>
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		<title>By: neildubya</title>
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		<dc:creator>neildubya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark - as if by magic, it&#039;s just appeared.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; as if by magic, it&#8217;s just appeared.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what happened to solutions to no 24126 by Brummie?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what happened to solutions to no 24126 by Brummie?</p>
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