Comments on: Independent 6512/Nimrod http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/ Never knowingly undersolved. Sat, 25 May 2013 19:19:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Al Streatfield http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4061 Al Streatfield Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:42:44 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4061 Re. 22ac. No way does Scrubs work as an anagram indicator, in my opinion.

I am amused by the comment: “In the light of Wormwoods Scrubs was pretty much unavoidable”.

Wouldn’t it have been better to abandon the clue and go back to the drawing board?

]]> By: Lexico http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4060 Lexico Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:43:19 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4060 Well, actually I have to confess that Gnostic (not Gnosis as I wrote before) does have a humorous slang meaning in the OED that is equivalent to knowing in the sense of fly (latest quotation from Trollope, 1859). That said, I think this was a synonym way beyond anything we should expect in a weekday (or maybe even advanced) cryptic. Is the setter a lexicographical gnostic, I wonder?

]]> By: Richard Palmer http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4059 Richard Palmer Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:01:09 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4059 I got all the Cluedo-related clues quickly but couldn’t finish this. The NW corner gave me particular grief.

In 9A there is no way that fly = knowing, sly can define Gnostic = knowing, shrewd. Chambers also defines fly as a familiar spirit but you couldn’t use fly as a definition of whiskey!

The definition in 2D is also unsound – if a fish eats a man the total biomass does not change.

]]> By: Lexico http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4053 Lexico Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:35:52 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4053 Gnosis = having knowledge and fly= knowing, sly — but they are by no means synonymous if you consider their separate meanings.

]]> By: conradcork http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4043 conradcork Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:31:57 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4043 Knowing nothing about Cluedo, it wasn’t until this puzzle was blogged that I realised the theme. In solving, I was baffled as to why ‘suspect’ should always turn out to be a colour. So I finished it without, as it were , bottoming it.

]]> By: nmsindy http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4042 nmsindy Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:10:21 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4042 GNOSTIC – It is indeed! Thanks, Colin (and Neil). Never thought of ‘curries’ as an anagram indicator, but looking in dicts it seems just fine. The ‘in’ misled me too whereas it’s part of the fodder.

]]> By: Colin Blackburn http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4041 Colin Blackburn Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:58:06 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4041 GNOSTIC – it’s as Neil says, (droppin)G IN COST curried.

]]> By: nmsindy http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4040 nmsindy Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:52:42 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4040 GNOSTIC I was OK with definition (fly) but can’t see the wordplay.

Took me a long time to see 1 across YAW BUS (All reversed).

]]> By: conradcork http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4038 conradcork Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:39:15 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4038 A train to London was routinely called ‘the up train’.

]]> By: Colin Blackburn http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4037 Colin Blackburn Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:37:55 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/08/30/independent-6512nimrod-cluedo-up/#comment-4037 Both fly and gnostic are defined as ‘knowing’ in Chambers.

Not sure about your explanation for 1ac!

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