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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 24172/Rufus</title>
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	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/03/guardian-24172rufus/#comment-4233</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems the general opinion is that 29a is not cryptic enough.  I suppose that &quot;converse&quot;, although appearing in every one of my dictionaries as a synonym for &quot;conversation&quot;, is rarely used in that connection nowadays.  I shall try and avoid clues like this in the future! Thanks for all the comments. 

I have pointed out before on this blog that I am asked to provide a straightforward, relatively simple, crossword for the Guardian Monday spot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the general opinion is that 29a is not cryptic enough.  I suppose that &#8220;converse&#8221;, although appearing in every one of my dictionaries as a synonym for &#8220;conversation&#8221;, is rarely used in that connection nowadays.  I shall try and avoid clues like this in the future! Thanks for all the comments. </p>
<p>I have pointed out before on this blog that I am asked to provide a straightforward, relatively simple, crossword for the Guardian Monday spot</p>
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		<title>By: Pasquale</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/03/guardian-24172rufus/#comment-4178</link>
		<dc:creator>Pasquale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I hope today&#039;s Guardian blogger gets some sleep! Night all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I hope today&#8217;s Guardian blogger gets some sleep! Night all!</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/03/guardian-24172rufus/#comment-4172</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pascale - you weren&#039;t kidding about your crossword being a touch harder ! Great work - enjoyed it a lot.

I would compare Paul (or Bunthorne of old) to JS Bach - deceptively simple on the surface but profound and lyrical.

Seems the Guardian like a simple bit of Chas &#039;n&#039; Dave on a Monday though ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pascale &#8211; you weren&#8217;t kidding about your crossword being a touch harder ! Great work &#8211; enjoyed it a lot.</p>
<p>I would compare Paul (or Bunthorne of old) to JS Bach &#8211; deceptively simple on the surface but profound and lyrical.</p>
<p>Seems the Guardian like a simple bit of Chas &#8216;n&#8217; Dave on a Monday though &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: eimi</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/03/guardian-24172rufus/#comment-4170</link>
		<dc:creator>eimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Enigmatist is Brahms and Liszt]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Enigmatist is Brahms and Liszt</p>
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		<title>By: muck</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/03/guardian-24172rufus/#comment-4169</link>
		<dc:creator>muck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A friend told me R is known as Mozart and A as Beethoven. Any other attributions of setters to composers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend told me R is known as Mozart and A as Beethoven. Any other attributions of setters to composers?</p>
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		<title>By: petebiddlecombe</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/03/guardian-24172rufus/#comment-4164</link>
		<dc:creator>petebiddlecombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;17D: You could be led astray by reading &quot;tie&quot; as in &quot;cup tie&quot;, rather than as in  tie=draw.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>17D: You could be led astray by reading &#8220;tie&#8221; as in &#8220;cup tie&#8221;, rather than as in  tie=draw.</p>
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		<title>By: purplerabbits</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/03/guardian-24172rufus/#comment-4155</link>
		<dc:creator>purplerabbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definitely count myself as a weaker solver and I quite liked 29A, though it would have read better as &quot;converse TO friends&quot;. But I though 17D (score draw for &#039;football tie with goals&#039;) was purely literal - unless there is something clever about it I&#039;m missing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely count myself as a weaker solver and I quite liked 29A, though it would have read better as &#8220;converse TO friends&#8221;. But I though 17D (score draw for &#8216;football tie with goals&#8217;) was purely literal &#8211; unless there is something clever about it I&#8217;m missing?</p>
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		<title>By: Pasquale</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/03/guardian-24172rufus/#comment-4149</link>
		<dc:creator>Pasquale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A solving acquaintance (met on a ramble) who likes A wrote to the crossword ed complaining about R and he told her what I have told you. More than that I do not know!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A solving acquaintance (met on a ramble) who likes A wrote to the crossword ed complaining about R and he told her what I have told you. More than that I do not know!</p>
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		<title>By: linxit</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/03/guardian-24172rufus/#comment-4142</link>
		<dc:creator>linxit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Each to his 2 down I suppose. I take each puzzle as it comes. I was full of praise for a first class Rufus puzzle I blogged a couple of months ago. Not a weak clue in it, and filled with excellent surface readings and witty definitions. It wasn&#039;t hard, but it was still good. Actually I&#039;ve just checked back - it was 24088 back in May, and 24124 in July was another. I just think this one was set too easy, and the clueing maybe suffered as a result.

Don, your statistic about popularity is interesting. Rephrasing the question slightly might get a different answer. How many solvers who put Araucaria first would put Rufus second? Or vice versa?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each to his 2 down I suppose. I take each puzzle as it comes. I was full of praise for a first class Rufus puzzle I blogged a couple of months ago. Not a weak clue in it, and filled with excellent surface readings and witty definitions. It wasn&#8217;t hard, but it was still good. Actually I&#8217;ve just checked back &#8211; it was 24088 back in May, and 24124 in July was another. I just think this one was set too easy, and the clueing maybe suffered as a result.</p>
<p>Don, your statistic about popularity is interesting. Rephrasing the question slightly might get a different answer. How many solvers who put Araucaria first would put Rufus second? Or vice versa?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/03/guardian-24172rufus/#comment-4141</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I completely agree with Pasquale&#039;s post.

However, 29 Across really has no place in a cryptic. It doesn&#039;t work except as a straight clue - if the idea was to make us think of conversation then it should be &quot;conversation&quot; or &quot;conversing&quot; (except that would then ruin the definition, obviously - which is why it doesn&#039;t really work). It&#039;s not the easiness that&#039;s the problem - it&#039;s just a poor cryptic clue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Pasquale&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>However, 29 Across really has no place in a cryptic. It doesn&#8217;t work except as a straight clue &#8211; if the idea was to make us think of conversation then it should be &#8220;conversation&#8221; or &#8220;conversing&#8221; (except that would then ruin the definition, obviously &#8211; which is why it doesn&#8217;t really work). It&#8217;s not the easiness that&#8217;s the problem &#8211; it&#8217;s just a poor cryptic clue.</p>
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