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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 24,180/Araucaria &#8211; One for the bibliophiles</title>
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		<title>By: ilancaron</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/12/guardian-24180araucaria-one-for-the-bibliophiles/#comment-4552</link>
		<dc:creator>ilancaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;not allowed...&quot; comment is explained in Neil&#039;s exhaustive FAQ (http://fifteensquared.net/faq) -- the gist is that the papers run a pay-for-answers service and we don&#039;t want to completely obviate the need for such a service.

I try to provide the full clue when there&#039;s something about it that completely bamboozles me or when it&#039;s worth repeating aesthetically.  But this is selective, since again we don&#039;t want to become a crossword publication replacement service (thus depriving the papers of income...).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;not allowed&#8230;&#8221; comment is explained in Neil&#8217;s exhaustive FAQ (<a href="http://fifteensquared.net/faq" rel="nofollow">http://fifteensquared.net/faq</a>) &#8212; the gist is that the papers run a pay-for-answers service and we don&#8217;t want to completely obviate the need for such a service.</p>
<p>I try to provide the full clue when there&#8217;s something about it that completely bamboozles me or when it&#8217;s worth repeating aesthetically.  But this is selective, since again we don&#8217;t want to become a crossword publication replacement service (thus depriving the papers of income&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Al Streatfield</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/09/12/guardian-24180araucaria-one-for-the-bibliophiles/#comment-4550</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Streatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m slightly mystified by loonapick&#039;s comment &quot;I&#039;m not allowed to blog them all&quot;. Can someone please explain?

On another point, it is rather difficult to discuss a clue when one hasn&#039;t seen the puzzle- I only get the Independent normally.

Would it be possible for bloggers to write out in full some of the clues they are analysing?

Al]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m slightly mystified by loonapick&#8217;s comment &#8220;I&#8217;m not allowed to blog them all&#8221;. Can someone please explain?</p>
<p>On another point, it is rather difficult to discuss a clue when one hasn&#8217;t seen the puzzle- I only get the Independent normally.</p>
<p>Would it be possible for bloggers to write out in full some of the clues they are analysing?</p>
<p>Al</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Loonapick, but you&#039;ve explained 16a not 18a I think. 16a was one of the few I got!

I see the 3d now thanks. It&#039;s bending the rules to breaking point in my novice book but there is a bit of logic in there I suppose.

4d I knew stickler as a noun but not a verb!
11d - yep, should have got that.

Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Loonapick, but you&#8217;ve explained 16a not 18a I think. 16a was one of the few I got!</p>
<p>I see the 3d now thanks. It&#8217;s bending the rules to breaking point in my novice book but there is a bit of logic in there I suppose.</p>
<p>4d I knew stickler as a noun but not a verb!<br />
11d &#8211; yep, should have got that.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: loonapick</title>
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		<dc:creator>loonapick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark
18 ac - The French (LE) setter&#039;s (MY) on Please Turn Over (a bit of stretch for next page, I&#039;ll grant you, but on websites, you could argue that a &quot;next page&quot; link would have the same effect as PTO on a letter?
3d - typical Araucaria, I&#039;m afraid - you have to make the leap from &quot;labelled&quot; to &quot;with tag&quot;
4dn - STICKLE(back) as in &quot;be a stickler for proper crossword convention&quot;
11ac - CONTRARY - T in (carry on)*
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark<br />
18 ac &#8211; The French (LE) setter&#8217;s (MY) on Please Turn Over (a bit of stretch for next page, I&#8217;ll grant you, but on websites, you could argue that a &#8220;next page&#8221; link would have the same effect as PTO on a letter?<br />
3d &#8211; typical Araucaria, I&#8217;m afraid &#8211; you have to make the leap from &#8220;labelled&#8221; to &#8220;with tag&#8221;<br />
4dn &#8211; STICKLE(back) as in &#8220;be a stickler for proper crossword convention&#8221;<br />
11ac &#8211; CONTRARY &#8211; T in (carry on)*</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and what were 4d and 11a please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and what were 4d and 11a please.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Far too hard for me and the usual quota of clues I had no chance with BUT also the usual couple that still irritate with answer.

18a - How does this work. In order to get a nice surface he&#039;s surely blown the logical build up of the cryptic parts. Please show me I&#039;m wrong.

3d - How does labelled = TAG. Surely it would be tagged. Again please shout if I&#039;m missing something.

cheers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far too hard for me and the usual quota of clues I had no chance with BUT also the usual couple that still irritate with answer.</p>
<p>18a &#8211; How does this work. In order to get a nice surface he&#8217;s surely blown the logical build up of the cryptic parts. Please show me I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p>3d &#8211; How does labelled = TAG. Surely it would be tagged. Again please shout if I&#8217;m missing something.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t know about it falling into place too quickly - I sweated blood, but got there in the end. Best puzzle of the year to date ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know about it falling into place too quickly &#8211; I sweated blood, but got there in the end. Best puzzle of the year to date ?</p>
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		<title>By: roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The man is, very simply, one of a kind: long may he continue. Particularly nice to see the wonderful Sir Thomas Browne namechecked in this puzzle. I must admit AVATAR defeated me entirely. I don&#039;t know why, but 17D seemed typical of Araucaria- only just more satisfying than it was annoying!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man is, very simply, one of a kind: long may he continue. Particularly nice to see the wonderful Sir Thomas Browne namechecked in this puzzle. I must admit AVATAR defeated me entirely. I don&#8217;t know why, but 17D seemed typical of Araucaria- only just more satisfying than it was annoying!</p>
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		<title>By: AlanR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlanR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fain means willing or gladly, as in &quot;I would fain&quot; play this test.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fain means willing or gladly, as in &#8220;I would fain&#8221; play this test.</p>
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		<title>By: jetdoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jetdoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that there were some lovely clues in this — Araucaria at his best. I got A FAREWELL TO ARMS immediately from the clue (even with ‘the the’, a typo I am frequently picked up on by the spell-checker). For the other three 15-letter answers, I recognised/guessed the novels and worked back to the clues; but then that’s what I often do with Araucaria.

I’m not completely sure about 21d/19a, FAINTEST. Definition: as in ‘haven’t the faintest idea’. TEST = match. How does ‘of wanting a’ give FAIN?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there were some lovely clues in this — Araucaria at his best. I got A FAREWELL TO ARMS immediately from the clue (even with ‘the the’, a typo I am frequently picked up on by the spell-checker). For the other three 15-letter answers, I recognised/guessed the novels and worked back to the clues; but then that’s what I often do with Araucaria.</p>
<p>I’m not completely sure about 21d/19a, FAINTEST. Definition: as in ‘haven’t the faintest idea’. TEST = match. How does ‘of wanting a’ give FAIN?</p>
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