Comments on: Guardian 24260/Brendan – The Sound of Musicians http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/ Never knowingly undersolved. Mon, 20 May 2013 02:07:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Testy http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9429 Testy Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:20:21 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9429 Mark, I think that it is quite common for the names of composers/authors/artists and their work to be interchangeable.

For example we often listen to some Mozart and read Dickens. Lots of people are very fond of Shakespeare (even though they couldn’t possibly know how likeable the man himself was) and others would pay a fortune for a Picasso (but wouldn’t expect to get a chap in a stripy shirt delivered to their door).

]]> By: beermagnet http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9426 beermagnet Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:54:20 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9426 Backs/Champions: It’s the verb meaning that’s equivalent. If you back someone you champion their cause.

]]> By: mark http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9420 mark Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:13:38 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9420 Yes but why does BACKS = champions???

By the way I don’t see why 5D is so raved about by others. For the cryptic part it should be MUSICIANS TO…not MUSIC which then doesn’t work. Trying to say music and musicians are the same thing is lazy.

]]> By: mick h http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9390 mick h Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:31:50 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9390 A time server, in a work context, is someone just going through the motions, not committed to the job but just waiting for the next pay cheque/counting out the days to their pension, so – arguably – someone lacking conviction in what they’re doing. That’s how I read it anyway.

]]> By: ilancaron http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9387 ilancaron Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:58:50 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9387 8: LIMB(ERNES)S and 17 is in the blog.
In 13 I think you’ve got the idea: men serving time have been convicted, therefore they have convictions but do they have convictions in the moral sense (it’s doubtful)?
21D: Split the clue between defending/champions and you have “players picked for defending” as one def and the other is “champions”.

]]> By: mark http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9384 mark Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:41:43 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9384 Help please, I still can’t get 8D or 17A.

Other queries:

13D What is the double meaning of TIME SERVERS? Ok I get that convicted people in prison are “doing time”; but why does someone not convicted (“…yes and no”) also fit the clue? A conviction isn’t a necessari;y positive belief so it’s not like saying they have no morals.

21D I got that it was Bax leading to (rugby players say) BACKS. But what have defending champions got to do with it?

Many thanks for any help/insight you can offer

]]> By: muck http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9331 muck Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:44:06 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9331 Brilliant Brendan, as ever. 5dn wasn’t difficult and I assumed the following answers were all musical homophones, because of the ‘say?’ at the end. I didn’t get the composers, but it was clever to have the homophone indicator in both the 5dn clue and its answer!

]]> By: ilancaron http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9329 ilancaron Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:49:40 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9329 thanks Shirley — hence no doubt prestwick (and greenwich and ilk) i suppose. Wicked!

]]> By: Shirley http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9328 Shirley Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:45:45 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9328 20Ac Wick is the Saxon word for a village

]]> By: linxit http://www.fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9325 linxit Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:46:25 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/12/14/guardian-24260placeholder/#comment-9325 18A: list² in Chambers says “the selvage on woven textile fabrics; a border; a stripe; a strip, esp one cut from an edge”. There’s a lot more but that’s the relevant bit.

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