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	<title>Comments on: Independent 6617/Virgilius</title>
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		<title>By: Al Streatfield</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/01/02/independent-6617virgilius/#comment-10888</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Streatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Listener that used the &quot;thinking outside the box&quot; idea was &quot;No Pen&quot; by Charybdis. (Can&#039;t remember what number) It combined it ingeniously with the concept of &quot;lateral thinking&quot; (Edward de Bono etc.) so that the letters THIN and KING had to be written outside of the grid on each side of it, creating new words when added to the appropriate across answers in the grid...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Listener that used the &#8220;thinking outside the box&#8221; idea was &#8220;No Pen&#8221; by Charybdis. (Can&#8217;t remember what number) It combined it ingeniously with the concept of &#8220;lateral thinking&#8221; (Edward de Bono etc.) so that the letters THIN and KING had to be written outside of the grid on each side of it, creating new words when added to the appropriate across answers in the grid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: petebiddlecombe</title>
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		<dc:creator>petebiddlecombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More applause from here - I stupidly failed to understand &quot;thinking outside the box&quot; even after seeing the point of the other sticky-outy bits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More applause from here &#8211; I stupidly failed to understand &#8220;thinking outside the box&#8221; even after seeing the point of the other sticky-outy bits.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, this was good - tougher than normal for Virgilius.   Re ENVELOPE, I think this does not refer to a letter, but is a scientific usage that passed into general language.

A Listener used the same &quot;thinking outside the box&quot; idea fairly recently and that did help me along.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this was good &#8211; tougher than normal for Virgilius.   Re ENVELOPE, I think this does not refer to a letter, but is a scientific usage that passed into general language.</p>
<p>A Listener used the same &#8220;thinking outside the box&#8221; idea fairly recently and that did help me along.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Laws</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Laws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating Nina. The Indy is certainly breaking new ground in its custom daily grid facility!

BTW, the apology for the &quot;production error&quot; appeared at the bottom of page 7 in this Jan 1 paper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating Nina. The Indy is certainly breaking new ground in its custom daily grid facility!</p>
<p>BTW, the apology for the &#8220;production error&#8221; appeared at the bottom of page 7 in this Jan 1 paper.</p>
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