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		<title>By: xyuhgw</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/01/13/guardian-24277-sat-5-janaraucaria-sin-city/#comment-13171</link>
		<dc:creator>xyuhgw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 07:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Al Streatfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Streatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you sure your offices aren&#039;t in Erewhon?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure your offices aren&#8217;t in Erewhon?</p>
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		<title>By: Testy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Testy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I can&#039;t speak for Araucaria but when Testy Ltd opened its office the men were putting up the sign for it in big black letters but when they checked they found they were missing the E so they immediately telegrammed the supplier, Shiners of London Inc, to request an E posthaste.  The supplier replied that they stocked the letters in two colours, black and white, and requested clarification &quot;White E: Yes/No?&quot;.  The reply went back to say &quot;White E, no!&quot; which the supplier inferred meant &quot;Black E, yes!&quot; and the correct letter was succussfully despatched and installed.  In fact the sign can still be seen to this day outside the venerable institution of Testy Ltd...... in New York!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I can&#8217;t speak for Araucaria but when Testy Ltd opened its office the men were putting up the sign for it in big black letters but when they checked they found they were missing the E so they immediately telegrammed the supplier, Shiners of London Inc, to request an E posthaste.  The supplier replied that they stocked the letters in two colours, black and white, and requested clarification &#8220;White E: Yes/No?&#8221;.  The reply went back to say &#8220;White E, no!&#8221; which the supplier inferred meant &#8220;Black E, yes!&#8221; and the correct letter was succussfully despatched and installed.  In fact the sign can still be seen to this day outside the venerable institution of Testy Ltd&#8230;&#8230; in New York!</p>
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		<title>By: Al Streatfield</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/01/13/guardian-24277-sat-5-janaraucaria-sin-city/#comment-11853</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Streatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand your point, Testy.

The problem with both clues, it seems to me, is the lack of a decent surface reading. This might be justified (?) if there was some literal sense in them, but there isn&#039;t...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your point, Testy.</p>
<p>The problem with both clues, it seems to me, is the lack of a decent surface reading. This might be justified (?) if there was some literal sense in them, but there isn&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Testy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Testy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think what the compiler is trying to say is:

If &quot;Ltd is US&quot; was correct then then the corollary would be that &quot;Inc is E&quot;.

I don&#039;t think he&#039;s necessarily trying to make any literal sense in either statement.

For example a similar clue could be:

Shiners&#039; corollary of &quot;White E no&quot;?

If &quot;White E no&quot; then the corollary might be &quot;Black E yes&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what the compiler is trying to say is:</p>
<p>If &#8220;Ltd is US&#8221; was correct then then the corollary would be that &#8220;Inc is E&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s necessarily trying to make any literal sense in either statement.</p>
<p>For example a similar clue could be:</p>
<p>Shiners&#8217; corollary of &#8220;White E no&#8221;?</p>
<p>If &#8220;White E no&#8221; then the corollary might be &#8220;Black E yes&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Al Streatfield</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/01/13/guardian-24277-sat-5-janaraucaria-sin-city/#comment-11827</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Streatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apologies for the same message appearing twice. I got a &quot;duplicate message detected&quot; thingie...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for the same message appearing twice. I got a &#8220;duplicate message detected&#8221; thingie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Al Streatfield</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/01/13/guardian-24277-sat-5-janaraucaria-sin-city/#comment-11826</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Streatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3 down is particularly puzzling. 

What the compiler seems to be saying is that &quot;Limited&quot; is the US way of referring to a particular kind of company, whereas &quot;Incorporated&quot; is the English way of referring to the same kind of company. Is this right? I always associate &quot;Inc.&quot; with America and &quot;Ltd.&quot; with England.

Yours baffled,

Al]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 down is particularly puzzling. </p>
<p>What the compiler seems to be saying is that &#8220;Limited&#8221; is the US way of referring to a particular kind of company, whereas &#8220;Incorporated&#8221; is the English way of referring to the same kind of company. Is this right? I always associate &#8220;Inc.&#8221; with America and &#8220;Ltd.&#8221; with England.</p>
<p>Yours baffled,</p>
<p>Al</p>
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		<title>By: Al Streatfield</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/01/13/guardian-24277-sat-5-janaraucaria-sin-city/#comment-11825</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Streatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3 down is particularly puzzling. 

What the compiler seems to be saying is that &quot;Limited&quot; is the US way of referring to a particular kind of company, whereas &quot;Incorporated&quot; is the English way of referring to a particular kind of company. Is this right? I always associate &quot;Inc.&quot; with America and &quot;Ltd.&quot; with England.

Yours baffled,

Al]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 down is particularly puzzling. </p>
<p>What the compiler seems to be saying is that &#8220;Limited&#8221; is the US way of referring to a particular kind of company, whereas &#8220;Incorporated&#8221; is the English way of referring to a particular kind of company. Is this right? I always associate &#8220;Inc.&#8221; with America and &#8220;Ltd.&#8221; with England.</p>
<p>Yours baffled,</p>
<p>Al</p>
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		<title>By: Qaos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Qaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol point taken :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol point taken <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: beermagnet</title>
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		<dc:creator>beermagnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I agree 100% with Andrew&#039;s &quot;Ltd is US&quot; &quot;Inc is E[nglish]&quot; corollary explanation.  That the GU annotated solution is wrong is no great surprise - for instance I see they have this crossword misnumbered as 24227 rather than 24277.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I agree 100% with Andrew&#8217;s &#8220;Ltd is US&#8221; &#8220;Inc is E[nglish]&#8221; corollary explanation.  That the GU annotated solution is wrong is no great surprise &#8211; for instance I see they have this crossword misnumbered as 24227 rather than 24277.</p>
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