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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 24376 Araucaria -&#8221;Inconsiderate Service Order&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/04/30/guardian-24376-araucaria-inconsiderate-service-order/#comment-21722</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, as you said earlier, thank Goodness this is still &#039;Araucaria&#039;s day&#039;, with a return to some humour. The last one I wrote in was 13ac!

Andrew, does it matter that 1ac and 25ac don&#039;t have a life of their own? [They do balance one another rather nicely.] Thanks for your explanation of 17dn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as you said earlier, thank Goodness this is still &#8216;Araucaria&#8217;s day&#8217;, with a return to some humour. The last one I wrote in was 13ac!</p>
<p>Andrew, does it matter that 1ac and 25ac don&#8217;t have a life of their own? [They do balance one another rather nicely.] Thanks for your explanation of 17dn.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I may have to apologise about being so sniffy about &quot;PG&quot;=&quot;Paying Guest&quot; which does seem to be a current abbreviation. The problem is that I have only ever come across the term (a) in previous Araucaria crosswords and (b) in Wallace &amp; Gromit&#039;s &quot;The Wrong Trousers&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have to apologise about being so sniffy about &#8220;PG&#8221;=&#8221;Paying Guest&#8221; which does seem to be a current abbreviation. The problem is that I have only ever come across the term (a) in previous Araucaria crosswords and (b) in Wallace &amp; Gromit&#8217;s &#8220;The Wrong Trousers&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very easy puzzle for Araucaria, I thought.  Can&#039;t add anything to excellent explanations from Stan and previous bloggers.

So a comment about 21a: the CIVIL YEAR was a secular, not church, time period (as the name implies), although it traditionally started on a religious festival - the feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, on 25 March (the visit from the angel Gabriel, obviously timed to be exactly 9 calendar months before Christmas).  By the time the Gregorian calendar was finally adopted in Britain in 1752, the old Julian calendar was 11 days &#039;behind&#039; (in terms of dates of solstices etc) so 11 days were skipped in September 1752 in order to bring the calendar back on track.  So as not to have a short year. the start of the civil year was also moved forward 11 days to 5 April in 1753.  It was again moved forward by one day in 1800, which didn&#039;t have a leap day (following Gregorian rules), but no correction was made for 1900.  That is why the tax year starts on the apparently random 6 April - one of the few relics of this old system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very easy puzzle for Araucaria, I thought.  Can&#8217;t add anything to excellent explanations from Stan and previous bloggers.</p>
<p>So a comment about 21a: the CIVIL YEAR was a secular, not church, time period (as the name implies), although it traditionally started on a religious festival &#8211; the feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, on 25 March (the visit from the angel Gabriel, obviously timed to be exactly 9 calendar months before Christmas).  By the time the Gregorian calendar was finally adopted in Britain in 1752, the old Julian calendar was 11 days &#8216;behind&#8217; (in terms of dates of solstices etc) so 11 days were skipped in September 1752 in order to bring the calendar back on track.  So as not to have a short year. the start of the civil year was also moved forward 11 days to 5 April in 1753.  It was again moved forward by one day in 1800, which didn&#8217;t have a leap day (following Gregorian rules), but no correction was made for 1900.  That is why the tax year starts on the apparently random 6 April &#8211; one of the few relics of this old system.</p>
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		<title>By: Octofem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Octofem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[12 ac - _Sorry: my first comment and I was carried away.  Was thinking of Macho from another puzzle! Must do better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12 ac &#8211; _Sorry: my first comment and I was carried away.  Was thinking of Macho from another puzzle! Must do better.</p>
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		<title>By: Octofem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Octofem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[12 ac -Tambo is also a small bongo drum, making less noise than the larger one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12 ac -Tambo is also a small bongo drum, making less noise than the larger one.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[12ac - the &quot;jingly drum&quot; is actually spelt Tambourine, so TAMBO really is exactly half of it. (With the second half perhaps giving scope for a less tasteful clue...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12ac &#8211; the &#8220;jingly drum&#8221; is actually spelt Tambourine, so TAMBO really is exactly half of it. (With the second half perhaps giving scope for a less tasteful clue&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: John Ridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[23ac - TOPI is the sahib&#039;s pith helmet (more often spelt TOPEE?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>23ac &#8211; TOPI is the sahib&#8217;s pith helmet (more often spelt TOPEE?)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and 17dn: I thought the AR was the &quot;opening&quot; of &quot;article&quot;, in addition to the article=A in CHIC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and 17dn: I thought the AR was the &#8220;opening&#8221; of &#8220;article&#8221;, in addition to the article=A in CHIC.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops - &quot;..phrase on its OWN,...&quot;, that should be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8211; &#8220;..phrase on its OWN,&#8230;&#8221;, that should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[9ac - the extra R is from R for Recipe = take (as in medicine).
14ac - DEAR BRUTUS: a play by J M Barrie, DE(from) + R in ARBUTUS

I&#039;m not sure about 1ac and 25ac - does either of them exist as a phrase on its on, without DISTINGUISHED?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9ac &#8211; the extra R is from R for Recipe = take (as in medicine).<br />
14ac &#8211; DEAR BRUTUS: a play by J M Barrie, DE(from) + R in ARBUTUS</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about 1ac and 25ac &#8211; does either of them exist as a phrase on its on, without DISTINGUISHED?</p>
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