Guardian 24396/Audreus – men are chesspieces
Posted by ilancaron on May 23rd, 2008
The only HELMSLEY I know is the very wealthy NYC socialite Leona who I think recently died and was not well-loved in America. Well, I didn’t actually know her.
Across
| 1 | S,CO,USER – Just learnt yesterday that Cherie Blair is one — haven’t actually heard her ever — does she have an accent? | |
| 5 | VA(R)NISH – “topcoat” probably deserves a question-mark here. | |
| 9 | ES,TOP – legal term for a stay or something like that. E and S are our directions. | |
| 10 | POL(EMICA)L – (I came)* in POLL who’s our (pretty) parrot. | |
| 11 | P(HEN,O,MEN)AL – I got this far but don’t see how the wordplay hangs together… MEN? Thanks to Eileen again: of course, MEN are (chess) pieces. I knew that  |
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| 12 | AMIS[s] – Kingsley or Martin? | |
| 14 | STEEP,LECH,AS,E – ref. LECH Walesa. | |
| 18 | IM,P(O,V)ERISHED – rev(VO=very old) in PERISHED for very cold (in Chambers:”distressed by cold, hunger…” | |
| 22 | ON THE CHEAP – (he can’t hope)* | |
| 25 | CUT,THROAT=(hot art)* | |
| 26 | ORGAN – hidden in “metaphOR G ANd…”: def is “newspaper” and not heart which is the hidden indicator. | |
| 28 | HOL(IDA)Y – IDA’s our girl. |
Down
| 1 | SHE,R,PA – Haggard’s classic book is SHE. | |
| 3 | S(UP)PORTIVE – UP (“being at university”) in SPORTIVE for “frisky” with the def “maintaining a loyal interest”. | |
| 5 | VA,L(U)AB,LES – rather complex wordplay: LES is our “man” and V & A is our museum (Victoria and Albert). | |
| 7 | INCHMEAL=(male chin)* – obvious anagram for a somewhat unfamiliar word for “inch by inch” (I guess by analogy to piecemeal). | |
| 8 | H(ELMS,L)EY – HEY’s our dance and I guess HELMSLEY’s in Yorkshire. | |
| 15 | ER(RONEO)US – RONEO in rev(sure): I discovered that RONEO is a kind of old mimeograph machine or some such in cryptic crosswords some time ago. | |
| 16 | NIGHTCAP – a rather weak double/cryptic def. Who wears a nightcap these days (or nights)? | |
| 17 | OPERATOR – rather clever double def: to be done (conned) by an OPERATOR is something that happens all the time here in NYC and probably London. | |
| 20 | S(PUN)KY | |
| 24 | SHED – first letters of “see how everyone differs”. Took me a while to see this! |
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:25 am
I got through most of this pretty quickly, but then got stuck on 18ac, where I can’t find a word to fit, even with all the crossing letters. I hope someone will be along in a minute to put me out of my misery..
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:02 am
18ac IM-P[OV]ERISHED
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:08 am
Thanks Eileen. I’d put in SUPPORTING for 3dn, even though I’m sure I meant to put SUPPORTIVE. D’oh!
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:34 am
You are not alone Andrew.
I did precisely the same thing and had precisely the same surprise at failing to get 18A, given the low level of difficulty for the rest of the puzzle (1A and 1D provided probably the fastest I’ve ever written in the first two answers).
For 3D I suggest SUPPORTING is a reasonable answer from the clue.
I didn’t question its correctness.
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:38 am
‘Supporting’ almost works, though!
I did wonder if ‘perished’ was causing the problem. People sometimes look puzzled when I use it in the sense of being very cold. OED says it’s now chiefly dialect. We certainly use it in the Midlands.
8dn is not entirely satisfactory – reminiscent of the [fairly] recent ‘in Lakeland’ discussion, isn’t it? It may cause Ilancaron problems. [H-ELMS-L-EY is a town in the North York Moors; I'm more used to 'hey' - a country dance - spelt 'hay', though the dictionary gives both spellings.]
I wasn’t familiar with ‘inchmeal’ but guessed it by analogy with ‘piecemeal’.
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:47 am
Sorry, Beermagnet: I posted the above before seeing your comment.
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:52 am
Thanks to Beermagnet for moral support (ho ho).
I’m familiar with “perishing” to describe cold weather, so it’s an easy deduction from that to “perished”.
INCHMEAL was new to me too, though easy to guess as you say. And I had the same qualms over HELMSLEY.
Nice touch in 24dn – Audreus being SHED’s mum, as previously discussed.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am
Snap. Made the same mistake, thinking Frisky=SPORTING, then got IMPOVERISHED, so Frisky had to be SPORTIVE.
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:17 pm
I spotted the SUPPORTING/SUPPORTIVE ambiguity in 3dn, but fortunately plumped for SUPPORTIVE.
I can’t get excited about the ‘in [country or county]‘ issue. It may be inexact, but it isn’t illogical. The device is used so often that it has become a convention, as far as I am concerned. The main difficulty here was that HELMSLEY is not a particularly well-known place.
7dn is certainly not an everyday word, but I knew it from Caliban’s splendid curse on Prospero in Shakespeare’s ‘The Tempest’:
“All the infections that the sun sucks up
From bogs, fens, flats, on Prosper fall, and make him
By inchmeal a disease!”
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:43 pm
I also stumbled with supporting for 3d(!).
Can anyone please explain the wordplay behind 17d (I assume the answer is operator)?
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
I wondered about this one, too, then decided a surgeon obviously does operations and an operator can be [Collins] ‘a person who manipulates affairs and other people’, therefore ‘do’ in the sense of ‘cheat’?
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Eileen’s explanation for 17d was the rationale I came up with too.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:57 pm
11ac: Ilancaron:men = [chess] pieces
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:12 pm
I am proud to to have made a mistake that eluded others. I had “LOOS” for 12A, thinking that “astray” = “loose” minus the last letter. Anita Loos might show up more frequently in US puzzles than over there.
It worked with “helmsley” but totally screwed up “inchmeal”.
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Showing my age again: Cherie Blair is the daughter of Tony Booth, who played the “Scouse git” – Alf Garnet’s son-in-law – in “Till Death Us Do Part”.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm
I hate to ask, because I know everyone else got this, and it’s probably so obvious no one bothers to even answer it – but what’s the answer to 2d? I got all the rest, which is good going for me.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Kate: 2dn is OUTLET – a double definition (rather a weak clue in my opinion)
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Thanks for that, Andrew.