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	<title>Comments on: Enigmatic Variations &#8212; 836 Tribute by Loda</title>
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		<title>By: rightback</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/11/14/enigmatic-variations-836-tribute-by-loda/#comment-53861</link>
		<dc:creator>rightback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my favourite puzzles this year. Many thanks to Loda, and thanks for the blog, Colin.

I agree with Geoff that 34ac should probably have read &quot;rail down&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my favourite puzzles this year. Many thanks to Loda, and thanks for the blog, Colin.</p>
<p>I agree with Geoff that 34ac should probably have read &#8220;rail down&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Blackburn</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/11/14/enigmatic-variations-836-tribute-by-loda/#comment-53735</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Blackburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deejay, thanks. I have no idea why I decided to invent a currency unit. I think I should type these things up as soon as I solve them rather than leaving them on the side for several days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deejay, thanks. I have no idea why I decided to invent a currency unit. I think I should type these things up as soon as I solve them rather than leaving them on the side for several days.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Blackburn</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/11/14/enigmatic-variations-836-tribute-by-loda/#comment-53734</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Blackburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beermangent, thanks for the comment. I have corrected the quotation (including &#039;that&#039; for &#039;who&#039; and punctuation.) My ODQ, where I first identified the line, is correct. Then, to save time, I cut and pasted from some Internet source. Big mistake to trust the Internet!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beermangent, thanks for the comment. I have corrected the quotation (including &#8216;that&#8217; for &#8216;who&#8217; and punctuation.) My ODQ, where I first identified the line, is correct. Then, to save time, I cut and pasted from some Internet source. Big mistake to trust the Internet!</p>
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		<title>By: deejay</title>
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		<dc:creator>deejay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with 34a being a faulty clue; I also thought it should have read &quot;rail down&quot;.

Also, I think the wordplay for 28a should be CA+RE+M+E: M after CA+RE(=on) + E.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with 34a being a faulty clue; I also thought it should have read &#8220;rail down&#8221;.</p>
<p>Also, I think the wordplay for 28a should be CA+RE+M+E: M after CA+RE(=on) + E.</p>
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		<title>By: beermagnet</title>
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		<dc:creator>beermagnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mind if I point out that the line is 
	&quot;They shall grow not old&quot;
rather than &quot;They shall not grow old&quot; 
I read a piece recently (either in the G or the Indie) on why it is important to correct this common error and it struck a chord with me.  The gist is that &quot;They shall grow&quot;  implies growing remembrance despite the fact that they will remain &quot;not old&quot; whereas &quot;They shall not&quot; is too negative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mind if I point out that the line is<br />
	&#8220;They shall grow not old&#8221;<br />
rather than &#8220;They shall not grow old&#8221;<br />
I read a piece recently (either in the G or the Indie) on why it is important to correct this common error and it struck a chord with me.  The gist is that &#8220;They shall grow&#8221;  implies growing remembrance despite the fact that they will remain &#8220;not old&#8221; whereas &#8220;They shall not&#8221; is too negative.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Blackburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Blackburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the corrections and clarifications, Geoff. 

You are probably right about 34a. 11d is easy when explained! I think I gave up trying once I knew the grid entry was correct and I&#039;d not come across PATROON before. I thought I had typed crustacean at 41a, it seems not. And, 17a gave away a bit of my light-weight mark-up, now corrected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the corrections and clarifications, Geoff. </p>
<p>You are probably right about 34a. 11d is easy when explained! I think I gave up trying once I knew the grid entry was correct and I&#8217;d not come across PATROON before. I thought I had typed crustacean at 41a, it seems not. And, 17a gave away a bit of my light-weight mark-up, now corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Moss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Colin

11d is &#039;patroon&#039; with &#039;Pat&#039; removed. The definition is &#039;cox&#039; and the wordplay is PATRO[l] (cut short perambulation) ON (in progress).

34a I have &#039;faulty clue&#039; written against this one as I am not happy with &#039;cut at length&#039;. I think the clue was possibly meant to read &#039;rail down&#039; to which the &#039;t&#039; must be added to define &#039;fall&#039;.

41a To suit the clue I think you should have said that a &#039;telson&#039; is a bit of a crustacean (even though it is also a bit of an arachnid).

PS You&#039;ve lost some formatting in 17a.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin</p>
<p>11d is &#8216;patroon&#8217; with &#8216;Pat&#8217; removed. The definition is &#8216;cox&#8217; and the wordplay is PATRO[l] (cut short perambulation) ON (in progress).</p>
<p>34a I have &#8216;faulty clue&#8217; written against this one as I am not happy with &#8216;cut at length&#8217;. I think the clue was possibly meant to read &#8216;rail down&#8217; to which the &#8216;t&#8217; must be added to define &#8216;fall&#8217;.</p>
<p>41a To suit the clue I think you should have said that a &#8216;telson&#8217; is a bit of a crustacean (even though it is also a bit of an arachnid).</p>
<p>PS You&#8217;ve lost some formatting in 17a.</p>
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