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		<title>By: Al Streatfield</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/11/18/independent-6893tees/#comment-54583</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Streatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re. the reference(s) to cocaine in this puzzle:

It is not clear whether they are approving or not, but if anyone doubts that cocaine is a naff drug, they are directed to an article on page 21 of today&#039;s (Wednesday) Independent whose headline is: &quot;Every time you consume one gram of cocaine, you are destroying 4.4 square metres of Colombian rainforest&quot;... There is also a leading article on the subject on page 34.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. the reference(s) to cocaine in this puzzle:</p>
<p>It is not clear whether they are approving or not, but if anyone doubts that cocaine is a naff drug, they are directed to an article on page 21 of today&#8217;s (Wednesday) Independent whose headline is: &#8220;Every time you consume one gram of cocaine, you are destroying 4.4 square metres of Colombian rainforest&#8221;&#8230; There is also a leading article on the subject on page 34.</p>
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		<title>By: Tees</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/11/18/independent-6893tees/#comment-54370</link>
		<dc:creator>Tees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Easiest Nina I&#039;ve ever set.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easiest Nina I&#8217;ve ever set.</p>
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		<title>By: beermagnet</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/11/18/independent-6893tees/#comment-54369</link>
		<dc:creator>beermagnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank goodness for that. Ta.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness for that. Ta.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/11/18/independent-6893tees/#comment-54365</link>
		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Mick H is just joking that he saw the word (NINA).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Mick H is just joking that he saw the word (NINA).</p>
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		<title>By: beermagnet</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/11/18/independent-6893tees/#comment-54364</link>
		<dc:creator>beermagnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mick, are you saying there is a NINA in there that we haven&#039;t seen?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mick, are you saying there is a NINA in there that we haven&#8217;t seen?</p>
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		<title>By: Mick H</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/11/18/independent-6893tees/#comment-54357</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Experience teaches me that not all ideas are feasible, and you can be in debt without being bankrupt... but near enough - 27ac is in the sense of &#039;that&#039;s an idea&#039;. Anyway, excellent stuff, esp EDAM and TROJAN HORSE. 
And even I spotted the NINA this time!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experience teaches me that not all ideas are feasible, and you can be in debt without being bankrupt&#8230; but near enough &#8211; 27ac is in the sense of &#8216;that&#8217;s an idea&#8217;. Anyway, excellent stuff, esp EDAM and TROJAN HORSE.<br />
And even I spotted the NINA this time!</p>
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		<title>By: Al Streatfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Streatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never heard of Doc Daneeka (although thought Catch 22 was a great book) or Mackem. Didn&#039;t finish it as tend to be put off by obscure cultural and geographical references in daily puzzles. Liked 24 across (Bankrupt Enid disconnected by phone company) IN DEBT]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never heard of Doc Daneeka (although thought Catch 22 was a great book) or Mackem. Didn&#8217;t finish it as tend to be put off by obscure cultural and geographical references in daily puzzles. Liked 24 across (Bankrupt Enid disconnected by phone company) IN DEBT</p>
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		<title>By: Testy</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/11/18/independent-6893tees/#comment-54332</link>
		<dc:creator>Testy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This left me feeling pretty proud of myself after being able to finish it in spite of the tricky vocab and complex linking of clues.  Maybe it&#039;s a sign that the setter did his job well (i.e. easier clues to trickier words) but I think I&#039;ll prefer to kid myself that I&#039;m finally getting better at this game.

I had question marks over the &quot;an idea&quot;/FEASIBLE thing; the indirectness of SEMANE; and the Catch 22 reference (I had to work back from the answer and then Googled Doc Daneeka. I think it might have been more accessible, but perhaps too easy, if it had been Heller that was name-checked instead).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This left me feeling pretty proud of myself after being able to finish it in spite of the tricky vocab and complex linking of clues.  Maybe it&#8217;s a sign that the setter did his job well (i.e. easier clues to trickier words) but I think I&#8217;ll prefer to kid myself that I&#8217;m finally getting better at this game.</p>
<p>I had question marks over the &#8220;an idea&#8221;/FEASIBLE thing; the indirectness of SEMANE; and the Catch 22 reference (I had to work back from the answer and then Googled Doc Daneeka. I think it might have been more accessible, but perhaps too easy, if it had been Heller that was name-checked instead).</p>
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		<title>By: neildubya</title>
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		<dc:creator>neildubya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2d def - yes I&#039;m sure it is just &quot;action of battery&quot;. I included &quot;regulatory&quot; in my comment to illustrate how well-hidden I thought it was. Not a very good illustration obviously!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2d def &#8211; yes I&#8217;m sure it is just &#8220;action of battery&#8221;. I included &#8220;regulatory&#8221; in my comment to illustrate how well-hidden I thought it was. Not a very good illustration obviously!</p>
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		<title>By: beermagnet</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2008/11/18/independent-6893tees/#comment-54327</link>
		<dc:creator>beermagnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was a treat, eh!
I know I&#039;ve seen some enjoyable puzzles from Tees but this was something else - feeling probably enhanced by an ideal solving experience near the real fire with a decent pint in the pub.
Linking Catch-22 to the Fish theme - the great PDM when the &quot;sprat to catch a mackerel&quot; part of 20A&#039;s clue is understood (I wouldn&#039;t quibble about the def. there) - some lovely disguised wordplay throughout.

I&#039;d add 17A to your list of tricky words - I&#039;d pencilled in C(o/a)P(a/o)NIERE but couldn&#039;t decide between those two options.
Agreed that the wordplay in the others led to them quite nicely though I didn&#039;t get the 25A tree, not helped by spelling Gethsemane with an O there (reveals RE ignorance).  Mind you, I wouldn&#039;t include 5 BESSON as &quot;tricky&quot;, he&#039;s well-known enough surely - but I know they aint hard if you know &#039;em.

Absolutely loved 2D - suspect Tees is fan of Thing from the Fantastic Four - BTW I think the def. is &quot;action of battery&quot; or just &quot;battery&quot; as the regulatory is part of the wordplay supplying the G.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a treat, eh!<br />
I know I&#8217;ve seen some enjoyable puzzles from Tees but this was something else &#8211; feeling probably enhanced by an ideal solving experience near the real fire with a decent pint in the pub.<br />
Linking Catch-22 to the Fish theme &#8211; the great PDM when the &#8220;sprat to catch a mackerel&#8221; part of 20A&#8217;s clue is understood (I wouldn&#8217;t quibble about the def. there) &#8211; some lovely disguised wordplay throughout.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d add 17A to your list of tricky words &#8211; I&#8217;d pencilled in C(o/a)P(a/o)NIERE but couldn&#8217;t decide between those two options.<br />
Agreed that the wordplay in the others led to them quite nicely though I didn&#8217;t get the 25A tree, not helped by spelling Gethsemane with an O there (reveals RE ignorance).  Mind you, I wouldn&#8217;t include 5 BESSON as &#8220;tricky&#8221;, he&#8217;s well-known enough surely &#8211; but I know they aint hard if you know &#8216;em.</p>
<p>Absolutely loved 2D &#8211; suspect Tees is fan of Thing from the Fantastic Four &#8211; BTW I think the def. is &#8220;action of battery&#8221; or just &#8220;battery&#8221; as the regulatory is part of the wordplay supplying the G.</p>
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