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	<title>Comments on: Guardian (Jumbo) 24,577 (Sat 20 Dec)/Araucaria &#8211; Christmas carols</title>
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		<title>By: Owen Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2009/01/03/guardian-jumbo-24577-sat-20-decaraucaria-christmas-carols/#comment-63225</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought 6 CAESAR worked with &quot;delivery&quot; being a homonym indicator and CAESAR being a homonym for &quot;seizer&quot;. But maybe that&#039;s a bit far-fetched.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought 6 CAESAR worked with &#8220;delivery&#8221; being a homonym indicator and CAESAR being a homonym for &#8220;seizer&#8221;. But maybe that&#8217;s a bit far-fetched.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ellison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ellison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Smutchin in that I found it surprisingly easy, too, and had finished it by the next day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Smutchin in that I found it surprisingly easy, too, and had finished it by the next day.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sorry Eileen - I&#039;ve just noticed you pointed this out earlier!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry Eileen &#8211; I&#8217;ve just noticed you pointed this out earlier!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in 45 the &quot;not spruce&quot; does work as anagram indicator but is also a nifty bit of misdirection  - the Sitka Spruce is a variety of tree as is the Sitka Alder which sent me down a cruciverbal cul-de-sac for some time.

I thought this was an excellent puzzle for the two days it took me to solve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in 45 the &#8220;not spruce&#8221; does work as anagram indicator but is also a nifty bit of misdirection  &#8211; the Sitka Spruce is a variety of tree as is the Sitka Alder which sent me down a cruciverbal cul-de-sac for some time.</p>
<p>I thought this was an excellent puzzle for the two days it took me to solve.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The perfect crossword - I saved it for Boxing Day when I was flying from Toronto to Rome. It occupied me for the full 8-hour flight. I filled in the last answer, 62a (I greatly appreciate Geoff Moss&#039;s explanation but I agree with Beermagnet&#039;s opinion of the clue) as we were on final approach. I flew home yesterday, with another Araucaria puzzle (Saturday&#039;s) to occupy me. I&#039;m STILL trying to figure out 1a  in that one!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The perfect crossword &#8211; I saved it for Boxing Day when I was flying from Toronto to Rome. It occupied me for the full 8-hour flight. I filled in the last answer, 62a (I greatly appreciate Geoff Moss&#8217;s explanation but I agree with Beermagnet&#8217;s opinion of the clue) as we were on final approach. I flew home yesterday, with another Araucaria puzzle (Saturday&#8217;s) to occupy me. I&#8217;m STILL trying to figure out 1a  in that one!</p>
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		<title>By: smutchin</title>
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		<dc:creator>smutchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t notice the alphabetical discrepancy - and me a sub-editor by profession! - so I filled in Torch and Tolpuddle, being the obvious answers, as Eileen says.

I found this surprisingly easy and had all but completed it by the Sunday afternoon at a couple of sittings, leaving the rest of the Christmas break free to &lt;strike&gt;concentrate on the King William&#039;s quiz&lt;/strike&gt;spend some quality time with my family. The perimeters were pretty obvious and filling them in gave you the initial letters of all the nine-letter clues, which I guess is as good a head-start as you&#039;re ever likely to get from Araucaria. But it was most enjoyable none the less - some great fun clues in there.

The only answers that eluded me were AITCH (though it seems so obvious now) and OCTADIC. I looked up April Rainers and from that guessed it started OCT... but didn&#039;t manage to decipher the rest of the clue. I presume OCTADIC is in Chambers? It&#039;s not in my OED.

I liked the MEDWAY clue, though some would balk at the first four letters of a six-letter word being described as the &quot;start&quot; of that word.

Shame that EATER appeared a few days later in a Paul puzzle with an almost identical (albeit differently worded) clue.

By the way, rightback, re 40: I think Omophagia is specifically the eating of raw flesh rather than raw food generally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t notice the alphabetical discrepancy &#8211; and me a sub-editor by profession! &#8211; so I filled in Torch and Tolpuddle, being the obvious answers, as Eileen says.</p>
<p>I found this surprisingly easy and had all but completed it by the Sunday afternoon at a couple of sittings, leaving the rest of the Christmas break free to <strike>concentrate on the King William&#8217;s quiz</strike>spend some quality time with my family. The perimeters were pretty obvious and filling them in gave you the initial letters of all the nine-letter clues, which I guess is as good a head-start as you&#8217;re ever likely to get from Araucaria. But it was most enjoyable none the less &#8211; some great fun clues in there.</p>
<p>The only answers that eluded me were AITCH (though it seems so obvious now) and OCTADIC. I looked up April Rainers and from that guessed it started OCT&#8230; but didn&#8217;t manage to decipher the rest of the clue. I presume OCTADIC is in Chambers? It&#8217;s not in my OED.</p>
<p>I liked the MEDWAY clue, though some would balk at the first four letters of a six-letter word being described as the &#8220;start&#8221; of that word.</p>
<p>Shame that EATER appeared a few days later in a Paul puzzle with an almost identical (albeit differently worded) clue.</p>
<p>By the way, rightback, re 40: I think Omophagia is specifically the eating of raw flesh rather than raw food generally.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d forgotten about the alphabetical mistake, which I did spot, until today. I too resisted putting in TORCH for a while but it was so obviously right [as was TOLPUDDLE] that I gave in, putting it down to a compositor&#039;s [are there still such people?] error rather than Araucaria&#039;s. Had this been one of his rhyming &#039;Araubeticals&#039; [copyright Muck] it would have been more obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d forgotten about the alphabetical mistake, which I did spot, until today. I too resisted putting in TORCH for a while but it was so obviously right [as was TOLPUDDLE] that I gave in, putting it down to a compositor&#8217;s [are there still such people?] error rather than Araucaria&#8217;s. Had this been one of his rhyming &#8216;Araubeticals&#8217; [copyright Muck] it would have been more obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree with Beermagnet - just did not put in 57 as it broke the alphabetical flow and had put my faith in Aracuria!  Guess - just don&#039;t trust printers1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Beermagnet &#8211; just did not put in 57 as it broke the alphabetical flow and had put my faith in Aracuria!  Guess &#8211; just don&#8217;t trust printers1</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rightback, this is weird: you couldn&#039;t see &#039;reputed owner&#039; and I couldn&#039;t see &#039;on the mat&#039;, for the life of me, until just now. We must have been looking at the wrong WHEREUNDERS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rightback, this is weird: you couldn&#8217;t see &#8216;reputed owner&#8217; and I couldn&#8217;t see &#8216;on the mat&#8217;, for the life of me, until just now. We must have been looking at the wrong WHEREUNDERS!</p>
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		<title>By: TwoPies</title>
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		<dc:creator>TwoPies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, thanks. The only one I struggled with was 39. I knew the answer was Omar but I didn&#039;t know any poets called Omar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, thanks. The only one I struggled with was 39. I knew the answer was Omar but I didn&#8217;t know any poets called Omar.</p>
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