Comments on: Independent 6,936 by Radian

By: Colin Blackburn

Colin Blackburn — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:21:04 +0000

Yes, I suppose Ocean’s 11 2 just wouldn’t have worked. Maybe Ocean’s 11.2 would have!

By: nmsindy

nmsindy — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:49:37 +0000

Many thanks for that, Colin. I mentioned it to a domestic film expert who not only knew all that but said there was a 12 and 13…

By: Colin Blackburn

Colin Blackburn — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:06:27 +0000

Ocean’s 11 is a classic heist movie, originally made in 1960 with many of the “11″ being in the “Rat Pack”. The 2001 remake took the same idea and used a number of current big US stars for the gang. The plots centre around Danny Ocean putting together a gang of 11 to rob a number of Las Vegas casinos.

By: nmsindy

nmsindy — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:50:37 +0000

I was unsure about this too, not got the puzzle with me, but thought film might be ‘cans’ tho I’d a problem with the s with ring = 0 and e = leader in 11 (eleven). I’d commented on the non-Xim ringleader but think this may have been all nonsense and that Colin (in 10 above) explains it. I am however totally unfamiliar with the film, the group and the ringleader of the group.

By: Colin Blackburn

Colin Blackburn — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:48:31 +0000

This has been a problem, for me, for a few Indy puzzles. I only have access to the online puzzle and as there is no archive, once a puzzle is gone I have no way of looking back at the clues.

By: SimonHarris

SimonHarris — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:20:33 +0000

That would make two of us – although I don’t remember “cans” coming into it all. Sadly I no longer have the clue to hand.

By: Colin Blackburn

Colin Blackburn — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:26:44 +0000

I think I must have missed the subtlety of 17ac. I just assumed it was a double def. with the second def being to Ocean’s, the ringleader of the group in the film being called Ocean.

By: Allan_C

Allan_C — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:54:04 +0000

I thought 17a rather devious. Only after resorting to a word finder could I work out the wordplay, and “cans” for “film” hadn’t occurred to me.

By: rayfolwell

rayfolwell — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:16:59 +0000

The SA golfer being someone other than Ernie ELS caught me out !

By: nmsindy

nmsindy — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:46:44 +0000

Very pleasing puzzle by this setter with an individual style – very impressive to get references to so many countries in as well as 12 ac and 25 ac. OCEANS was my last probably not helped by ringleader being one word (I know opinions differ on these matters but it was a nice idea). Would not object to all the cross-references and they were dealt with imaginatively with usages varying between clues