Comments on: Guardian 24,620/Chifonie

By: Ralph G

Ralph G — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:39:52 +0000

3d LAMBETH. Many thanks Paul B (56) for noting the Collins entry. Still interested in the parameters of this usage. A trawl of the first 50 pages of Google hits drew a blank so I tried the “Church Times” – just the sort of pithy locution that would appeal to journalists, I thought. No joy there either except for the Feb 1909 story: Morning Prayer and Evensong available in full on the gramophone, shock horror. Enquiry made of the Angican priesthood, G family division, but they’re all very busy tending their flocks, writing poetry, composing music, lecturing on T S Eliot etc.

By: smutchin

smutchin — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:45:55 +0000

Fair comment, Paul. Duly noted.

By: Tyro

Tyro — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:06:22 +0000

Hallelujah, Paul B, you seem to be the voice of reason here. I didn’t like Lambeth, but you’re right. It’s a fair cop. Let’s keep discussions to the puzzle in question. Clue comps and weather and cricket are another matter.

By: Paul B

Paul B — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:49:15 +0000

Lambeth = the AoC is in Collins, for gawd’s sake.

And in the same, widely-used tome, Sirens can just as easily be sirens. Check for yourselves, if you can be bothered.

For ‘Derek’, capitalisation *added* is allowed (by convention): capitalisation subtracted is not.

And finally, as a passing observation, what a lot of padding there seems to be among these Guardian comments.

By: Fletch

Fletch — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:33:38 +0000

Your response says it all, Stiofain.

By: stiofain_x

stiofain_x — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:22:54 +0000

cruel fletch cruel did u get a clue ignored?

By: Fletch

Fletch — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:38:01 +0000

I think you need a separate folder for back-patting/whingeing about the Cryptica results, they seem to take over the Guardian blogs on the day they’re announced.

By: Ralph G

Ralph G — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:47:37 +0000

3d LAMBETH. Andrew (#42 above). I reckon you’re right about the Lambeth-Westminster connection, esp. as the quote continues “… but this does not mean that Westminster is reponsible to Lambeth.” The citation isn’t a clincher. Possibly the OED editors had more evidence than they cited or put more weight on the fact that the ‘Lambeth degrees’ are honorary degrees conferred by the Archbishop of Canterbury. Perhaps someone more au fait with CofE matters could comment but it remains somewhat abstruse.

By: Barnaby Page

Barnaby Page — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:22:49 +0000

Andrew – thanks for reminding me of the term “metonymy” – I was just about to make the same comparison with Downing St., the White House, the Kremlin etc.!

Smutchin – what do I owe you for the compliment?

Derek – thanks for your email about software – I haven’t overlooked it and will get back to you in due course. (In due course – a concept which I am trying to get my dog to understand, without much success.)

By: Colin Blackburn

Colin Blackburn — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:23:28 +0000

In any individually judged cluing contest you surely always have to submit clues that conform to the style of the judge, be that Paul, Roger Philips or Azed. There are cluing contests that are judged by voting such as that at the Crossword Centre or some of those at rec.puzzles.crossword