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	<title>Comments on: Independent 6,973/Phi</title>
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		<title>By: eimi</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2009/02/20/independent-6973phi/#comment-69699</link>
		<dc:creator>eimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing wrong with the material to be anagrammed, but the definition part didn&#039;t quite work and I couldn&#039;t find a way around it that retained the original anagram. At least two contributors here thought the clue &#039;great&#039; but I&#039;m not sure how anyone can judge which is the better clue as only one was published.

Re: Wil&#039;s points, Collins defines improv as improvisational comedy. On the second point, I agree, it&#039;s not wrong, but it&#039;s best avoided. Ideally the same abbreviation shouldn&#039;t be used twice in the same puzzle either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing wrong with the material to be anagrammed, but the definition part didn&#8217;t quite work and I couldn&#8217;t find a way around it that retained the original anagram. At least two contributors here thought the clue &#8216;great&#8217; but I&#8217;m not sure how anyone can judge which is the better clue as only one was published.</p>
<p>Re: Wil&#8217;s points, Collins defines improv as improvisational comedy. On the second point, I agree, it&#8217;s not wrong, but it&#8217;s best avoided. Ideally the same abbreviation shouldn&#8217;t be used twice in the same puzzle either.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil Ransome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil Ransome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[18dn: Is improv necessarily comedy? My first thought, which Chambers confirms, was that it&#039;s simply improvisation, which may or may not be comedy.

A small point of elegance and style which struck me: 4dn and 21dn both used &#039;air&#039; in the wordplay. Could or should this have been avoided?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18dn: Is improv necessarily comedy? My first thought, which Chambers confirms, was that it&#8217;s simply improvisation, which may or may not be comedy.</p>
<p>A small point of elegance and style which struck me: 4dn and 21dn both used &#8216;air&#8217; in the wordplay. Could or should this have been avoided?</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That other suburb would be Brown Owl then!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That other suburb would be Brown Owl then!</p>
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		<title>By: Al Streatfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Streatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s wrong with &quot;team with nudes&quot; as material to be anagrammed? I think it&#039;s better than the published version. Neither &quot;dancing&quot; nor &quot;wrestling&quot; are amazing anagram indicators...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with &#8220;team with nudes&#8221; as material to be anagrammed? I think it&#8217;s better than the published version. Neither &#8220;dancing&#8221; nor &#8220;wrestling&#8221; are amazing anagram indicators&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well-Googled.  I&#039;m in Stokes Valley and thinking about the prevalence of six-letter suburbs in the area was what produced this.

As SV is actually pitched somewhere between Lower and Upper Hutt, there&#039;s a suburb of Upper Hutt amongst the ordinary answers...if anyone&#039;s really keen...

8d - my original clue contained &#039;Team with nudes dancing&#039; as the anagram fodder so I think Eimi should take the credit for this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well-Googled.  I&#8217;m in Stokes Valley and thinking about the prevalence of six-letter suburbs in the area was what produced this.</p>
<p>As SV is actually pitched somewhere between Lower and Upper Hutt, there&#8217;s a suburb of Upper Hutt amongst the ordinary answers&#8230;if anyone&#8217;s really keen&#8230;</p>
<p>8d &#8211; my original clue contained &#8216;Team with nudes dancing&#8217; as the anagram fodder so I think Eimi should take the credit for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think 23 down is OK because of the use of &#039;would&#039; - to say that if overturned it would be Etna implies it isn&#039;t Etna. &quot;Stake overturned by volcano&quot; would be ambiguous. 
When was the last time you heard anyone use &#039;SA&#039;, or for that matter &#039;it&#039; (except in the tabloid phrase &#039;it girl&#039;? It&#039;d be on my banned list if we had a rigid centrally enforced code of acceptable expressions - but luckily we&#039;re a tolerant, pluralist bunch!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think 23 down is OK because of the use of &#8216;would&#8217; &#8211; to say that if overturned it would be Etna implies it isn&#8217;t Etna. &#8220;Stake overturned by volcano&#8221; would be ambiguous.<br />
When was the last time you heard anyone use &#8216;SA&#8217;, or for that matter &#8216;it&#8217; (except in the tabloid phrase &#8216;it girl&#8217;? It&#8217;d be on my banned list if we had a rigid centrally enforced code of acceptable expressions &#8211; but luckily we&#8217;re a tolerant, pluralist bunch!</p>
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		<title>By: beermagnet</title>
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		<dc:creator>beermagnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[5D [W]EDGE the W is from the ellipsis to the &quot;What&quot; in the next clue.

Some lovely stuff in here.
&quot;Newest Thai mud wrestling team&quot; !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5D [W]EDGE the W is from the ellipsis to the &#8220;What&#8221; in the next clue.</p>
<p>Some lovely stuff in here.<br />
&#8220;Newest Thai mud wrestling team&#8221; !</p>
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		<title>By: beermagnet</title>
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		<dc:creator>beermagnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[10A  (I ERR)&lt; inside SA  The S.A. is from out old friend Sex Appeal i.e &quot;it&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10A  (I ERR)&lt; inside SA  The S.A. is from out old friend Sex Appeal i.e &#8220;it&#8221;.</p>
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