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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 24632 / Gordius</title>
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		<title>By: Ian Payn</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2009/02/25/guardian-24632-gordius/#comment-70670</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Payn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I thought the literal definition of 26 (ICONIC) was rather weak - got the solution quickly enough, but is “once seen never forgotten” a good def?&quot; - Barnaby Page

++++No, it&#039;s rubbish. Your qualms are justified, in my not-desperately-humble opinion. It&#039;s a shame, because despite my lack of respect for Gordius there&#039;s a lot that&#039;s good in this puzzle, spoiled by things like this definition and the rightly derided obscurity which does indeed look like the compiler had to catch a train.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I thought the literal definition of 26 (ICONIC) was rather weak &#8211; got the solution quickly enough, but is “once seen never forgotten” a good def?&#8221; &#8211; Barnaby Page</p>
<p>++++No, it&#8217;s rubbish. Your qualms are justified, in my not-desperately-humble opinion. It&#8217;s a shame, because despite my lack of respect for Gordius there&#8217;s a lot that&#8217;s good in this puzzle, spoiled by things like this definition and the rightly derided obscurity which does indeed look like the compiler had to catch a train.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnaby Page</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barnaby Page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Derek, Mark - I&#039;m glad we weren&#039;t alone in going for THATCH. (Then I suddenly saw ANTISOCIAL and FEDORA came quickly, not to mention PRAYER BOOK, because we&#039;d been thinking 7d was a specific revolt, and racking our brains for some kind of peasants&#039; revolt in the year of the Reformation...)

I thought the literal definition of 26 (ICONIC) was rather weak - got the solution quickly enough, but is &quot;once seen never forgotten&quot; a good def?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, Mark &#8211; I&#8217;m glad we weren&#8217;t alone in going for THATCH. (Then I suddenly saw ANTISOCIAL and FEDORA came quickly, not to mention PRAYER BOOK, because we&#8217;d been thinking 7d was a specific revolt, and racking our brains for some kind of peasants&#8217; revolt in the year of the Reformation&#8230;)</p>
<p>I thought the literal definition of 26 (ICONIC) was rather weak &#8211; got the solution quickly enough, but is &#8220;once seen never forgotten&#8221; a good def?</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t enjoy. Overly complicated in places but also some weak clues and obscure answers. 
I too put Thatch for 5A and that was one of the only answers I had for ages. So now I know that a hat is a cover...hmmmph.
 17A is terrible - didn&#039;t write that in because &quot;there must be something better&quot;! 
15A - what does the &quot;find&quot; do? 
Is Gordius always like this? If so that&#039;s 90p saved every so often.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t enjoy. Overly complicated in places but also some weak clues and obscure answers.<br />
I too put Thatch for 5A and that was one of the only answers I had for ages. So now I know that a hat is a cover&#8230;hmmmph.<br />
 17A is terrible &#8211; didn&#8217;t write that in because &#8220;there must be something better&#8221;!<br />
15A &#8211; what does the &#8220;find&#8221; do?<br />
Is Gordius always like this? If so that&#8217;s 90p saved every so often.</p>
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		<title>By: stiofain_x</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2009/02/25/guardian-24632-gordius/#comment-70445</link>
		<dc:creator>stiofain_x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree John, Chambers word wizard gives SAKIEH as the only word that fits the crossing letters indicating something bunged in at the end.
Too many ill-defined obscurities and weak clues for my liking. I suppose good clues for 3 letter word answers are hard to come up with but VIC was terrible. I did like the Beryl Cook clue though I thought a 3 letter word instead of late would have gave a nice bit of anagram misdirection.
Stiofain]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree John, Chambers word wizard gives SAKIEH as the only word that fits the crossing letters indicating something bunged in at the end.<br />
Too many ill-defined obscurities and weak clues for my liking. I suppose good clues for 3 letter word answers are hard to come up with but VIC was terrible. I did like the Beryl Cook clue though I thought a 3 letter word instead of late would have gave a nice bit of anagram misdirection.<br />
Stiofain</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was really tripped up by putting in Thatch for 5a, couldn&#039;t really justify it but there was that question mark! Had to cheat on a couple here, and I do mean cheat, by using Chambers online Wordwizard. A week of solving every puzzle without cheating still eludes me,still it is something to aim for I suppose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really tripped up by putting in Thatch for 5a, couldn&#8217;t really justify it but there was that question mark! Had to cheat on a couple here, and I do mean cheat, by using Chambers online Wordwizard. A week of solving every puzzle without cheating still eludes me,still it is something to aim for I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too many obscurities for me. &quot;Sakiel&quot; is lazy compiling in my view, finding something/anything that fits the last solution, however obscure, rather than trying to find a completely different and solvable corner. Pity because most of it was VG.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many obscurities for me. &#8220;Sakiel&#8221; is lazy compiling in my view, finding something/anything that fits the last solution, however obscure, rather than trying to find a completely different and solvable corner. Pity because most of it was VG.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ellison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ellison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Bob (#38). I had in Vic, but like mhl, I didn&#039;t think it was very cryptic, and I was also querying that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bob (#38). I had in Vic, but like mhl, I didn&#8217;t think it was very cryptic, and I was also querying that.</p>
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		<title>By: petero</title>
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		<dc:creator>petero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don &#039;euphobia&#039; is in my Chambers (2003) which is about as standard as references get]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don &#8216;euphobia&#8217; is in my Chambers (2003) which is about as standard as references get</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EUPHOBIA isn&#039;t in the SOD, which is the largest dictionary I have on my shelves, but it IS in my 1994 Chambers.  A rather misbegotten word, in my view - looks more like &#039;good fear&#039; than &#039;fear of good (news)&#039;.  Don&#039;t know who coined it, but they get no prizes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EUPHOBIA isn&#8217;t in the SOD, which is the largest dictionary I have on my shelves, but it IS in my 1994 Chambers.  A rather misbegotten word, in my view &#8211; looks more like &#8216;good fear&#8217; than &#8216;fear of good (news)&#8217;.  Don&#8217;t know who coined it, but they get no prizes.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul (not Paul) I think the dots are to indicate the theatrical link - Old VIC &amp; LYRIC, but as regulars know dots between clues can mean nothing at all and just there to mislead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul (not Paul) I think the dots are to indicate the theatrical link &#8211; Old VIC &amp; LYRIC, but as regulars know dots between clues can mean nothing at all and just there to mislead.</p>
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