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	<title>Comments on: Independent 7022/Scorpion (Prize puzzle 18-04-09)</title>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very tough puzzle, as one expects from Scorpion, with intricate wordplay.   I wonder if I was the first person to complete it, finishing it before 7 30 AM on Saturday on a red-eye flight.  It was a pleasing moment when I saw how PLIERS worked, as Allan_C has explained above.  Thanks for HERE AND THERE - I did not see how the AND THERE part worked but now I know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very tough puzzle, as one expects from Scorpion, with intricate wordplay.   I wonder if I was the first person to complete it, finishing it before 7 30 AM on Saturday on a red-eye flight.  It was a pleasing moment when I saw how PLIERS worked, as Allan_C has explained above.  Thanks for HERE AND THERE &#8211; I did not see how the AND THERE part worked but now I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Got it! LIE (=remain) by R (labourer&#039;s side) with SP&lt; gripping (i.e round LIE+R).  Thanks, Testy, for getting me to look at it again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got it! LIE (=remain) by R (labourer&#8217;s side) with SP&lt; gripping (i.e round LIE+R).  Thanks, Testy, for getting me to look at it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;They remain by labourer&#039;s side, having special raised gripping?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They remain by labourer&#8217;s side, having special raised gripping?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Testy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Testy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What was the clue for 4?

Regarding directionality in down clues I tend to go with something that I think Don M mentions in his book.  To paraphrase, you can easily argue that the answer to the clue is the word written conventionally (i.e. horizontally) it&#039;s just that, in the case of a down clue, when you come to fill the answer in the grid you have to write it vertically.  But that doesn&#039;t preclude the setter from also taking the other view and writing a clue which does rely on the fact that the answer is written vertically.  Anything goes (almost).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was the clue for 4?</p>
<p>Regarding directionality in down clues I tend to go with something that I think Don M mentions in his book.  To paraphrase, you can easily argue that the answer to the clue is the word written conventionally (i.e. horizontally) it&#8217;s just that, in the case of a down clue, when you come to fill the answer in the grid you have to write it vertically.  But that doesn&#8217;t preclude the setter from also taking the other view and writing a clue which does rely on the fact that the answer is written vertically.  Anything goes (almost).</p>
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		<title>By: Allan_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t work out the wordplay for 4 either.  &quot;Raised gripping&quot; certainly suggests pliers which usually have raised strips across the jaws.  Possibly L (labourer&#039;s side) in PIERS, but why should piers remain?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t work out the wordplay for 4 either.  &#8220;Raised gripping&#8221; certainly suggests pliers which usually have raised strips across the jaws.  Possibly L (labourer&#8217;s side) in PIERS, but why should piers remain?</p>
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