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Independent 7070 – Mordred (Sat 13 June 2009)

Posted by beermagnet on June 18th, 2009


This was a Cocker-knee rhyming slang special.
I ‘ad t’scratch me old loaf a bit to solve this one.
There were a good sprinkling of relatively easy clues for a saturday to get going, but you had to know a fair bit of Cockney Rhyming Slang (CRS) and understand various London-centric references to get to the end.
Those of you with only passing acquaintance with East End lingo, like say Dick Van Dyke, might have struggled.

Not 100% sure of the wordplay in some: 10, 13, 19,

6 SPINOSE Means spiky. ‘OSE (cockney’s socks, hose) on SPIN (to dry)
7 AUDIT Alternate letters reversed of “TrIeD oUt ‘At”
9 PUSH P[arking] U (acceptable) S[horeditc]H As in push drugs – cue one of my favourite songs
10 PEPPERMINT MINT is “load of dosh” and I suppose PEPPER is from “Dot’s” in the sense that if you are peppered with something you end up with loads of dots. Full clue:
Dot’s load of dosh is sweet (10)
11 PHEASANT (‘AS THE PAN)* AInd: boiling
13 IMPOST An IMPOST is a “Tax” POST from position in the employment sense, after (dogs) ‘IM from “that man in Deptford” Edit: Gaufrid points out the correct answer might also be IMPOSE which is also to tax in a broader sense, and whose subsidiary part POSE also fits position.  With the last letter unchecked I’m now not sure which is likely to be the given answer.  Has anyone strong views either way?
15 and 18 FROG and TOAD CRS for Road (the way)
19 STRESS Another I’m not sure of: (REST)* AInd disturbed, inside S[u]S (?) from “suspect gutted”. Surely this should give S[uspec]T and I wondered if there was a word STREST also meaning Anxious – thankful the final S is checked.
20 TRAVERSE TRADERS (barrow boys possibly) swap D for V (D from the ‘d after possibly!), then E[arly]
26 NONG NO (negative response) N.G. (no good) Apparently this is Aussie slang for a fool, so probably in use up west in Earl’s Court then, and not just by Spine Milliton
27 HINDU Hidden in churcHINDUck
28 JOURNEY URN (vase) inside JOEY (young man)
1 RIGHT ANGLE RIGHT (very) ANGLE (devious motive)
3 YELP L (student) inside YEP
4 MATERIAL (LAIR)< (Den climbs) after MATE (partner)
8 TUNISIA IS inside A1 (first class), then NUT, everything reversed
12 and 17 TWIST and TWIRL CRS for GIRL My last entered answer and it certainly did take a while to spot this from these mutually crossing lights T—T T—L and the clue:
‘Eastenders” girl in a spin after dance (5,5)
14 PATTERNING N[atalie] inside PATTERING. Was Mike Reid well-known for his patter? Presumably when performing stand-up?
16 RETEACH T[im]E (Bird I’m missing, Bird as in slang for prison – doing time) inside REACH. Hands up everyone who like me had the T from Stress and the H of Hindu and pencilled in OSTRICH hoping to justify it later.
17 TASTEFUL (FAULTS T[h]E)* AInd: careless. Not sure why Tasteful is “rarely” attractive
21 AIR GUN (ARGUIN’)* AInd: about
22/6 SUNNY SOUTH This must be CRS for MOUTH (kisser) but I don’t know it. I was expect North and South (aka Norf’n’Saarf). SUNNY (warm and friendly) SOUTH (partner in Bridge sense)
24 LENS “Mince pie” is CRS for Eye so a “mince pie ingredient” is part of the eye. Ref. Len Deighton where I now find he was not only a norfer but also a cook, so this clue is most apt: Possibly Deighton’s mince pie ingredient (4)
25 RAJA (A JAR)<

3 Responses to “Independent 7070 – Mordred (Sat 13 June 2009)”

  1. nmsindy says:

    Not got the puzzle with me now, but RHYME SLANG was in top and bottom rows if I recall which gave me the theme. Very unfamiliar with it but found a ‘translator’ using Google which enabled me to finish it! All great fun.

  2. Mike Laws says:

    Sorry, not impressed. “Rhyme slang” rather than “rhyming slang” was a cop-out, for the sake of using peripheral letters in some way. Without that restriction, a far better-designed grid using the theme, and more references to it, would be perfectly feasible.

    “Twist and twirl” for girl? Never heard of it. “Toby Twirl” (contemporary of Noddy) maybe. And there’s plenty of rhyming slang to exploit, without limiting yourself by using a dodgy example in the middle of the diagram just because the two five-letter words have the same central letter.

    A case of style over content, perhaps.

  3. beermagnet says:

    I do not believe I missed the Nina again and it’s so obvious now I look at it. :(

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