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Guardian 24,739 – Araucaria

Posted by Uncle Yap on June 30th, 2009

Uncle Yap.

dd = double definition
cd = cryptic definition
rev = reversed or reversal
ins = insertion
cha = charade
ha = hidden answer
*(fodder) = anagram

What a delightful offering from The Master with all his usual (and some unusual) tricks and ruses. Most entertaining and challenging and I still can’t parse a couple of clues; although I am fairly sure of all my answers.

1 COMPANION PIECE Ins of PI (3.14159) in ONE (1) -> ONPIE inserted in PANIC (terror) -> panionpiec inserted into COME (indicated by income)
10 TRIANON TRI (p) + ANON (presently)
11 KILDA sounds like killed (disposed of)
12 PAPAL BULL Ins of P (page)+ ALBU(m), unfinished scrapbook in PALL (see Chambers pall1)
13 NOT SO GOOD *(do soon got)
14 BASIC BA (degree) SIC (yes, really)
15 CHIPS Slang for a carpenter; also eaten with fried fish and seasoned with salt and vinegar
17 CACODEMON *(come and co) an evil spirit or devil; a nightmare
20 EXPECTANT Expectorant (cough mixture) minus OR
22 IMBER (t) IMBER, an uninhabited village in Wiltshire, situated in the middle of England’s Salisbury Plain. Imber’s inhabitants were evicted in 1943 to provide training grounds for the military.
23 SEISMAL *(Melissa)
24 LETTUCE Cha of LET (allow) TUC (Trade Union Congress)
E (first letter of eating)
25 STOCKTON-ON-TEES Ins of *(2 x note) in STOCKS (early punishment)

1 CHALK AND CHEESE Chalk (writer) & CHEESE (hard cheese = tough luck). Surely very different from companion pieces
2 MARTLET MART (rev of tram car) + LET (permit) a representation of a martin or swallow without feet, used as a bearing, a crest, or a mark of cadency for a fourth son (). “Shield bird” a tough def indeed
3 ANOMALOUS AN OM (omelette?) A LOUS (sounds like louse or base)
4 ICKY POO I (first) ins of P (piano) in *(cooky)
5 NOTEPAD NOT + ins of PA (father) in ED (journalist)
6 I WILL (k) IWI, bird from down under LL (50’s)
7 CONCUSS Cha of CON (with) CUSS (swear word)
8 ANGLICAN ORDERS Ins of I CAN (one’s able) + ORD *(rod) in ANGLERS (fishermen or rodsmen); surely not sanctioned by Papal Bull
14 BADMINTON Try as I did, I could not parse this game which Malaysia is quite good at; having won the inaugural Thomas Cup in Preston (City? :-) way back in 1949. We always seem to have a couple of players in the top ten world ranking
16 IMPRINT Cha of IMP (monkey) R in T (right in time)
17 CHAPLET a garland or wreath for the head
18 CATALAN C (caught) ATALANTA (remember Jason’s crew?) minus TA (no thanks)
19 MOB RULE MO (moment or little while) BRULE (adj with a coating of caramelized sugar)
21 COMIC Another answer for which I cannot fully parse. All the letters (except O) represent numbers in the Roman system. Anyone?

35 Responses to “Guardian 24,739 – Araucaria”

  1. Eileen says:

    Hi Uncle Yap – thanks for the blog

    14dn: BAD = bath in German. MINTON is a type of China.

    21dn: C [number] + OMIC[ron] [Greek letter

  2. Octofem says:

    Hi Uncle Yap. 14a is surely Bad – German for bath or watering place, plus Minton for china? I thought 19d very clever.

  3. Eileen says:

    PS: i think 3dn is just typical Araucaria – if you say ‘anomalous’ it sounds [a bit!] like ‘an omelette’ with a different ending [‘base’, since this is a down clue.]

  4. Crypticnut says:

    Thanks Uncle Yap.
    I always look forward to Araucaria’s work and this was pretty much his simple mode – easy to solve but enjoyable nonetheless with some very clever clues.
    My favourite was 11a which I had solved without knowing it – until I wrote it down; then I kicked myself. It is a suburb of Melbourne and their AFL team is undefeated so far this season(I’m sure you always wanted to know that)!

  5. Shirley says:

    9AC Can anyone explain why a bell is an airlock? Is it a diving bell?

  6. Crypticnut says:

    You’re right Shirley. The original diving bell was open at the bottom and trapped, or locked, air in the upper portion so the divers could breathe.

  7. Neil says:

    3dn. If Eileen is right (#3) that is a truly terrible clue. Can there be more to it?

    The rest I thought were good Araucarian stuff, from the less taxing end of his repertoire.

  8. Shirley says:

    Thanks Crypticnut. I also meant to say last time that a martlet (2D) is the bird that appears on the shield of the County of Sussex so may be familiar to people who live there on road signs, or to cricket lovers as it is worn on the County cricketers jumpers.

  9. Derek Lazenby says:

    Being interested in trains and trams and stuff, and having a reasonable grasp of heraldic terms, I thought 2d was pretty obvious. Just shows how different our interests are.

    I’ve never had much to do with Marxism etc., nor am I of the proletariat, as meant by Joseph Weydemeyer in his article of 1/1/1852 in the NY Times, but it is utterly clear that the concept “mob rule” has no relationship to what he meant. The term “mob rule” was applied as a hysterical negative spin by the ruling classes who, given what had previously happened in France, had plenty to worry about. Essentially then, equating mob and proletariat was a statement of appalling snoberry, being used by one class to denigrate another. Can we presume then, given that the equation is still used, and used without comment, that the church, the newspaper and it’s readership (and presumably the dictionaries) are still supporters of class based snoberry?

  10. liz says:

    Thanks for the blog, Uncle Yap. I didn’t find this as smooth-going as some of the others and had to cheat to get 25ac and finish the puzzle. CACODEMON was a new word for me. I did think 3dn (if there’s no other explanation) was stretching it a bit!

  11. cholecyst says:

    18 d. I suspect inhabitants of Catalunya might not be too pleased to see themselves defined as Spanish. “The Preamble of the 2006 Statute of Autonomy of Catalonia states the Parliament of Catalonia defined Catalonia as a nation, but that the Spanish Constitution recognizes Catalonia’s national reality as a nationality.”(Wikipedia – OK take pinch of salt)

  12. John says:

    Derek: What’s a snoberry?

  13. Derek Lazenby says:

    Snoberry – Please read post of a few weeks back re eldest boy being badly dyslexic and which side of the family it comes from. I’m not, I don’t think, but it gets close. And that’s when I’m writing. When I’m typing I also have to cope with having bugger-all hand/eye co-ordination. You should see the pre-Submit version! Letters in random order as my fingers hit whatever they feel like hitting. I get very annoyed with myself about it. Which is crazy, because it won’t ever get better.

  14. Bryan says:

    As always, I look forward to an Araucaria puzzle and I really enjoyed this.

    And, even though I live in Sussex, I only knew Martlet as in Martlets – a local hospice.

    Actually, I found it more difficult than Araucaria’s Saturday Prize Puzzle which I whizzed through in record time.

    Thanks mainly to the printers who, for once, failed to complicate a puzzle with some eccentric type setting.


  15. Ralph G says:

    25a ‘early terminus’. Just for the record – it was on 27 September 1825 that George Stephenson’s “Locomotion No.1″ pulled into STOCKTON ON TEES railway station at the end of the first ever passenger train journey. It had required a special Act of Parliament to sanction the exposure of passengers to the hazards of travel by rail at “hitherto unimaginable speeds”.
    2d MARTLET. A bit tough for those without connections to Sussex, the two Pembroke colleges or (so I see) the University of Victoria but the non-heraldic martin-martlet cropped up here recently in the context of Macbeth ActI vi/4 and ‘coign of vantage’.
    18d CATALAN. I agree with cholecyst at 11 above. ‘Not Spanish’ would have been nearer the mark. In my experience, people in the street would rather be addressed in French than Spanish. Conversely, I get the impression, from the incomprehension of visiting Spaniards in the face of Catalan inscriptions, that they regard Catalan much as the English regard Welsh, ie as something they’re not expected to know.
    19d MOB RULE. I agree with Derek L. at 9 above that the definition is historically defective.
    14d ‘ablution in Germany’ > BAD. Was it feasible for non-German speakers to work that out from the spa resort of Baden-Baden? If not, it was a poor clue.
    Enjoyed the puzzle, though.

  16. Nos says:

    Icky Poo??!! Only Araucaria…

  17. Brian Harris says:

    21ac is C for number (100) and part of OMICRON the Greek letter.

  18. Colin says:

    I had to raise an eyebrow at “Icy Poo” as well.

    Took me about 20 minutes – the only real difficulty was with “Trianon”, as I already knew “Cacodemon” (I’m a gamer, what can I say?)

  19. Brian Harris says:

    Oops, I mean 21d.

    Not really all that sold on the awful Omelette clue either.

  20. Brian Harris says:

    @Colin – yes, I only got this thanks to playing Doom!

  21. Dave Ellison says:

    2d, nearly the last to go in, not at all obvious, especially when looking for a Canadian bird.

    Enjoyed most of the rest.

    4d I_K_P_O What other words could you fit in? INKSPOT and PAKAPOO, according to OneAcross (ICKYPOO five starred!)

  22. harry says:

    crypticnut – not just undefeated – they destroyed Richmond at the weekend. Who’d have believed it?

  23. Derek Lazenby says:

    Dave? Howdya manage to be looking for a Canadian bird?

  24. Radler says:

    Derek L (9) You may be right, but your comments struck me as rather Dave Spart!
    Ralph G (15) There are numerous Germanic spa towns where the first word of the town name is “Bad” and I’m sure that a great many non-German speakers would at least subconsciously understand it to mean “Bath”, particularly with the obvious etymological relationship between the words. Of course some solvers wouldn’t, but I don’t believe that makes it a poor clue

  25. Derek Lazenby says:

    Radler, if something is wrong, but is evidently acceptable, then it is rather like breaking habits, you have to hit hard or people just shrug and continue as before. Some of the worst parts of history happened because ordinary people just shrugged. They also happened because nobody shouted louded enough to make people listen. To shout loud enough on the important issues, you have to be in the habit of doing it on any issue otherwise the apathy habit stops you. Some people stop listening, but so long as some don’t it works.

  26. Dagnabit says:

    Thank you, Uncle Yap!

    No complaints today – this went fairly smoothly for me. First in was 12; last was 22. I got stuck temporarily in the SW corner after having invented my own word for “tremendous” in 23: MASSILE.

  27. Ralph G says:

    24 above, Radler: yes, people familiar with German place-names would not have a problem, and no-one had complained. I was interested really to know whether bad/bath was the sort of intuitive general knowledge that bont/bridge, bobl/people are (possibly) in Welsh. And it’s eminently possible that solvers would arrive at the solution by other means, as Uncle Yap did.

  28. Ralph G says:

    23 above, Derek L (as Dave doesn’t seem to be around) key “Canadian Shield birds” into Google and all wil be revealed.

  29. Dave Ellison says:

    Ralph #28 and Derek #23. Yes, I am around but have been struggling with a macro for the past two hours.

    Yes, that’s right, I thought Canadian shield, but couldn’t bring to mind any special bird; mosquitos and blackfly did occur to me, though.

  30. Mr Beaver says:

    Derek L – rather surprised to hear you go all po-faced over 19d. Your objections are ‘politically correct’ in both senses ;)

  31. Derek Lazenby says:

    Mr Beaver, stick around and you will be less surprised. “Failure to question” is a bit of a hobby horse, but the reasons for that are, I feel, sound and are outlined above. I’ll add a bit, acceptance and obedience are not things I value, they are the antithesis of free thinking. I’m not fond of (metaphorical) sacred cows either. That should reduce the surprise element :)

  32. Neil says:

    I reckon that a good clue has you struggling and wondering until you’ve got it; but when you have, you KNOW you’ve got it. I expect someone will enlighten me that this notion is quite unoriginal as Xerxes or Spike Milligan or Popocatepetl or Dr Arnold said it years ago. Yet, there were several solutions here I needed to confirm (successfully as it happens) with reference aids, and 3dn was possibly the worst clue I can recall, ever. Yeah, I got it but only from the crossing letters. I’d really hoped somone would have come up with an explanation even beyond what the estimable Eileen helped us with. I have been as reverential (sic) about the old Monkeypuzzler as his other fans, but this – following his doddle of a Prize puzzle on Saturday (except the ambivalence at 11ac) – has shaken my faith. Paul, on the other hand …

  33. Martin Searle says:

    Nothing really to add. I found ‘martlet’ easy because I’m a cricket afficionado (albeit it Surrey). I’m with the Spart tendency re ‘mob rule’, and agree wthe the points made re Catalunya – the Great One may have to avoid Barcelona for a while. ‘Cacodemon’ was a new word for me, though easy enough to get. I had never come across ‘Atalanta’ despite some education in the Classics, only as a football team from Bergamo (see, I’m a mob member at heart). I do not at all like the ‘omelette’ clue.

  34. Mister Sting says:

    19dn does have an etymological defence.

    I have but the most cursory web search for evidence, but apparently…

    The proletariat are named from the lowest class of Roman citizens, and ‘mob’ is short for mobile vulgus, ‘the movable (changeable, inconstant) common people.’

    I present the above not as a rebuttal to Derek et al, rather for the greater glory of the Word. I understand that etymology does not equate to meaning. The point on pervasive standard discourse is also appreciated.

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