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		<title>By: mhl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mhl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[shuchi: thanks for the post - we missed RELIEVO, annoyingly, since I&#039;d seen the word very recently.  Excellent puzzle.

On the Paul vs Mudd issue, I agree it&#039;s surprising - I&#039;d always guessed that it was due to most solvers doing the puzzle in the dead tree edition, and a discrepancy between their circulation numbers, but the FT actually has a larger circulation:

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/table/2009/oct/16/abcs-national-newspapers

I don&#039;t know where one would get figures on the relative popularity of crosswords in each paper, but the Guardian crossword definitely has its distinct identity and reputation - if I remember correctly, it gets a number of entries to the prize crossword a bit below The Times, which is what you&#039;d expect from the circulation figures if the crosswords were approximately as infamous as each other&#160;:)

Of course, there&#039;s also something self-perpetuating about having so many people commenting on each Guardian post here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shuchi: thanks for the post &#8211; we missed RELIEVO, annoyingly, since I&#8217;d seen the word very recently.  Excellent puzzle.</p>
<p>On the Paul vs Mudd issue, I agree it&#8217;s surprising &#8211; I&#8217;d always guessed that it was due to most solvers doing the puzzle in the dead tree edition, and a discrepancy between their circulation numbers, but the FT actually has a larger circulation:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/table/2009/oct/16/abcs-national-newspapers" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/table/2009/oct/16/abcs-national-newspapers</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where one would get figures on the relative popularity of crosswords in each paper, but the Guardian crossword definitely has its distinct identity and reputation &#8211; if I remember correctly, it gets a number of entries to the prize crossword a bit below The Times, which is what you&#8217;d expect from the circulation figures if the crosswords were approximately as infamous as each other&nbsp;:)</p>
<p>Of course, there&#8217;s also something self-perpetuating about having so many people commenting on each Guardian post here.</p>
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		<title>By: shuchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>shuchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;...when so many people respond to Paul crosswords, while at the same time there are only 5 posts so far for a very good Mudd?&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve wondered about that too. In general, FT&#039;s comment space is oddly barren when compared with the Guardian&#039;s. Is it because FT solvers are fewer, or quieter, or something else altogether?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;when so many people respond to Paul crosswords, while at the same time there are only 5 posts so far for a very good Mudd?</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve wondered about that too. In general, FT&#8217;s comment space is oddly barren when compared with the Guardian&#8217;s. Is it because FT solvers are fewer, or quieter, or something else altogether?</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, both (and especially shuchi for the blog).
I don&#039;t have a Chambers, I am just relying on (several) i-sources, including Chambers. But it&#039;s clear now.

BTW, don&#039;t you (both) think there&#039;s something wrong (or to win) when so many people respond to Paul crosswords, while at the same time there are only 5 posts so far for a very good Mudd?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, both (and especially shuchi for the blog).<br />
I don&#8217;t have a Chambers, I am just relying on (several) i-sources, including Chambers. But it&#8217;s clear now.</p>
<p>BTW, don&#8217;t you (both) think there&#8217;s something wrong (or to win) when so many people respond to Paul crosswords, while at the same time there are only 5 posts so far for a very good Mudd?</p>
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		<title>By: shuchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>shuchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Gaufrid 

Saw your comment after posting mine - sorry for the duplication!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gaufrid </p>
<p>Saw your comment after posting mine &#8211; sorry for the duplication!</p>
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		<title>By: shuchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>shuchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;HOODLUM (9ac) is a noun, but can the definition “rough” be a noun too. Is there a person you can call “a rough”?&lt;/i&gt;

The dictionaries sanction it. Chambers has &quot;rough&quot; as noun, meaning &quot;a hooligan; a rowdy&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>HOODLUM (9ac) is a noun, but can the definition “rough” be a noun too. Is there a person you can call “a rough”?</i></p>
<p>The dictionaries sanction it. Chambers has &#8220;rough&#8221; as noun, meaning &#8220;a hooligan; a rowdy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaufrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaufrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Sil
&#039;rough&#039; in Chambers is defined as &#039;a hooligan, a rowdy&#039;, amongst many other things, so I think it can equate to &#039;hoodlum&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sil<br />
&#8216;rough&#8217; in Chambers is defined as &#8216;a hooligan, a rowdy&#8217;, amongst many other things, so I think it can equate to &#8216;hoodlum&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Brummie for us today, but a Muddie.
And a good one it was.
Great surface reading ánd fun in ROE DEER.
A very well-hidden solution in 8ac, where we first thought of &quot;rattle&quot; inside &quot;runner&quot; , with &quot;vertically&quot; as the definition. Knowing that it started with a U, we went for &quot;upright&quot; (but didn&#039;t enter it in the grid).
Smooth clueing in the well-constructed 11ac (ON THE GO).
And in 4d (ETHER), one of our favourites - seen ETHER very often in crosswords, but this one was particularly good.

Only one minor question.
HOODLUM (9ac) is a noun, but can the definition &quot;rough&quot; be a noun too. Is there a person you can call &quot;a rough&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Brummie for us today, but a Muddie.<br />
And a good one it was.<br />
Great surface reading ánd fun in ROE DEER.<br />
A very well-hidden solution in 8ac, where we first thought of &#8220;rattle&#8221; inside &#8220;runner&#8221; , with &#8220;vertically&#8221; as the definition. Knowing that it started with a U, we went for &#8220;upright&#8221; (but didn&#8217;t enter it in the grid).<br />
Smooth clueing in the well-constructed 11ac (ON THE GO).<br />
And in 4d (ETHER), one of our favourites &#8211; seen ETHER very often in crosswords, but this one was particularly good.</p>
<p>Only one minor question.<br />
HOODLUM (9ac) is a noun, but can the definition &#8220;rough&#8221; be a noun too. Is there a person you can call &#8220;a rough&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog, shuchi - as you say, lots of fun.

In 1ac, I think there&#039;s a reference to the &#039;safe&#039; meaning of &#039;peter&#039;.

I had the same thoughts as you about &#039;standing&#039; in 23ac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog, shuchi &#8211; as you say, lots of fun.</p>
<p>In 1ac, I think there&#8217;s a reference to the &#8216;safe&#8217; meaning of &#8216;peter&#8217;.</p>
<p>I had the same thoughts as you about &#8216;standing&#8217; in 23ac.</p>
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