Comments on: Azed 1965/groan

By: David Mansell

David Mansell — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:41:29 +0000

The online pdf also had a misprint of “cur” for “cut” which made finding the explanation for the solution a bit more difficult.

By: The Trafites

The Trafites — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:46:45 +0000

Paul #11, yes the bar was missing in the PDF – I hope marking it in was allowed!

I also apologise to AZED – ‘CIELO’ is in Chambers under the headword of ‘CEIL’ in the root def. of the word… [Prob connected with Fr ceil, Ital ceilo...]

Nick

By: Paul

Paul — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:31:48 +0000

I just noticed that in the pdf version of this crossword (at least when I printed it which was soon after it went live — I live in California) there is a bar missing at the end of PARELLE. So I thought it was PARELLES at first (after all PARLES means talk in French) until I got 10 down and then it had to be PARELLED which didn’t quite match the clue. But it couldn’t be anything else, only the second L is unchecked.

I have very little interest in cricket but I immediately put down BIRD since he has to be the only umpire famous enough for inclusion in a crossword (I mean even I’ve heard of him). He has a long Wikipedia page.

And at 3dn PURI is not the Juggernaut but apparently a town where the Juggernaut is worshipped.

By: ilancaron

ilancaron — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:07:53 +0000

Yes TE(LL)EN — typo indeed.

By: liz

liz — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:02:35 +0000

Thanks, ilancaron. The only way I was able to finish this was to cheat to get 34ac and 10dn, once I’d identified the wordplay in each. I also had ‘pure’ instead of ‘puri’ — that was one I should have checked!

re 22dn I’m sure this is just mistyping, but shouldn’t it be ‘tellen’ rather than ‘tellin’?

I actually have heard of Dickie Bird, but I only remembered after I had solved the clue.

By: David Mansell

David Mansell — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:55:21 +0000

They’ve actually erected a statue of “Dickie” Bird in Barnsley!

By: ilancaron

ilancaron — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:01:04 +0000

thanks all for the clarifications. I suspected CIELO was Italian sky (given that French is ciel) but wasn’t in C. The proximity of CICERO and English was … well… not so close for me to uncover obviously.

I didn’t know that umpires could be famous in any sport, much less cricket. (I challenge anyone to name a famous soccer ref — ok, except for the bald Italian guy

By: Jerb

Jerb — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:24:40 +0000

3d – The wordplay’s right, and Puri is the home of the famous Jagannath temple. Jagannath is a form of Vishnu – and Puri hosts the annual Ratha Yatra (chariot procession), tales of whose large, unstoppable chariots ultimately gave rise to our word “juggernaut”. Apparently…

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:44:11 +0000

21ac – cots are used for babies, so they contain little kippers.

By: The Trafites

The Trafites — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:42:10 +0000

I too was stumped by the wordplay to 25dn, as ‘cielo’ is not in Chambers – sometimes AZED states if a ref. is in C or not, and when this is not stated it frustrates me as I expect all words (ref. too!) to be there. It’s a big jump to assume ‘Neapolitan canopy’ = ‘sky’ in Italian!

Ref. 3dn had me worried a bit too, (Brewers helped me here) – it was only later that I found ‘puri’ in Chambers under the ‘juggernaut’ headword.

Nick