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	<title>Comments on: Inquisitor 1110 &#8211; I beg your pardon by Lato</title>
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		<title>By: HolyGhost</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/02/05/inquisitor-1110-i-beg-your-pardon-by-lato/#comment-102144</link>
		<dc:creator>HolyGhost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Lato&lt;/b&gt;:  a reference being well-known at publication is clearly good enough for you as setter (and indeed Mike L. as editor), but lacks a little something for me as solver, hoping to be both entertained and impressed. 

One criterion I have had for many years is &quot;would this puzzle sit well in an anthology?&quot;, looked at 10, 15 maybe 20 years hence; and with little context other than category, number, title, and setter (maybe also date of appearance, if this has some &lt;i&gt;ex post&lt;/i&gt; connection with thematic material, e.g. a notable anniversary). 

But as I intimated, it&#039;s a question of personal taste &#8230;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Lato</b>:  a reference being well-known at publication is clearly good enough for you as setter (and indeed Mike L. as editor), but lacks a little something for me as solver, hoping to be both entertained and impressed. </p>
<p>One criterion I have had for many years is &#8220;would this puzzle sit well in an anthology?&#8221;, looked at 10, 15 maybe 20 years hence; and with little context other than category, number, title, and setter (maybe also date of appearance, if this has some <i>ex post</i> connection with thematic material, e.g. a notable anniversary). </p>
<p>But as I intimated, it&#8217;s a question of personal taste &hellip;</p>
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		<title>By: George Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/02/05/inquisitor-1110-i-beg-your-pardon-by-lato/#comment-101940</link>
		<dc:creator>George Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A bit late I know, but my favourite book was always &quot;Baby&#039;s Revenge&quot; by Nora Titzov!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit late I know, but my favourite book was always &#8220;Baby&#8217;s Revenge&#8221; by Nora Titzov!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Biddlecombe</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/02/05/inquisitor-1110-i-beg-your-pardon-by-lato/#comment-101869</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Biddlecombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barnie: I can remember stuff like &quot;Mr and Mrs Kewl and their daughter Mollie&quot;, which are similar ghastly puns, but you don&#039;t need to know ISIHAC to invent or appreciate ghastly puns, so I&#039;m not sure that there&#039;s any particular reference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barnie: I can remember stuff like &#8220;Mr and Mrs Kewl and their daughter Mollie&#8221;, which are similar ghastly puns, but you don&#8217;t need to know ISIHAC to invent or appreciate ghastly puns, so I&#8217;m not sure that there&#8217;s any particular reference.</p>
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		<title>By: Lato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog and comments.

Don&#039;t see why references in clues have to be timeless. If they&#039;re well-known at the time of publication, isn&#039;t that good enough?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog and comments.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t see why references in clues have to be timeless. If they&#8217;re well-known at the time of publication, isn&#8217;t that good enough?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Laws</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/02/05/inquisitor-1110-i-beg-your-pardon-by-lato/#comment-101814</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Laws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was Samuel&#039;s &quot;Primary Reference&quot; - he used the sixteenth edition. On the strength of the enjoyment I got out of his puzzle, I amazoned the latest edition, which turned to be the 
&quot;18th EDITION (precisely)
Comprehensively reviled&quot;
and the content appeared to be totally different from Samuel&#039;s previous year&#039;s Christmas present.

Anyone know anything more about different editions of this apparently regular tomelet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was Samuel&#8217;s &#8220;Primary Reference&#8221; &#8211; he used the sixteenth edition. On the strength of the enjoyment I got out of his puzzle, I amazoned the latest edition, which turned to be the<br />
&#8220;18th EDITION (precisely)<br />
Comprehensively reviled&#8221;<br />
and the content appeared to be totally different from Samuel&#8217;s previous year&#8217;s Christmas present.</p>
<p>Anyone know anything more about different editions of this apparently regular tomelet?</p>
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		<title>By: barniebak</title>
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		<dc:creator>barniebak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter

I enjoyed this a lot, though it took me much more than an hour.

Isn&#039;t there an implicit reference to the radio programme &#039;I&#039;m sorry, I&#039;ll read that again&#039;, under the chairmanship of Humphrey Lyttleton?  And the related publication &#039;Uxbridge English Dictionary?  There was another not long ago - I can&#039;t remember who set it - with a more explicit reference to that programme , and to &#039;Humph&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter</p>
<p>I enjoyed this a lot, though it took me much more than an hour.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t there an implicit reference to the radio programme &#8216;I&#8217;m sorry, I&#8217;ll read that again&#8217;, under the chairmanship of Humphrey Lyttleton?  And the related publication &#8216;Uxbridge English Dictionary?  There was another not long ago &#8211; I can&#8217;t remember who set it &#8211; with a more explicit reference to that programme , and to &#8216;Humph&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: HolyGhost</title>
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		<dc:creator>HolyGhost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike - a touch of Eeyore, I agree. 

Pete - Greek myths have stood the test of time (whatever that means) as have some TV &amp; radio programmes, and I have no objection to those. 
Also, I recall &quot;Haunted House&quot; by Hugo First, &quot;Cliff Tragedy&quot; by Eileen Dover, and my personal favourite from a New Statesman comp.: &quot;Parrots as Pets&quot; by Hugh Zapritti-Boyden.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; a touch of Eeyore, I agree. </p>
<p>Pete &#8211; Greek myths have stood the test of time (whatever that means) as have some TV &amp; radio programmes, and I have no objection to those.<br />
Also, I recall &#8220;Haunted House&#8221; by Hugo First, &#8220;Cliff Tragedy&#8221; by Eileen Dover, and my personal favourite from a New Statesman comp.: &#8220;Parrots as Pets&#8221; by Hugh Zapritti-Boyden.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Biddlecombe</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/02/05/inquisitor-1110-i-beg-your-pardon-by-lato/#comment-101791</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Biddlecombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike,

Agreed - I don&#039;t see why clues shouldn&#039;t refer to TV shows when it&#039;s OK to refer to Greek myth and the like.  There&#039;s been some similar fuss about football references at Times for the Times recently, which at least suggests some kind of intellectual snobbery.

Thinking back, the puzzle reminds me of the Zander (i.e. Custos, i.e. Alec Robins) punny book title puzzles in the Listener - &quot;Justyn Print&quot; I think they were called.  The sample clue was, IIRC, &quot;The Broken Window&quot; - answer EVA BRICK.  My favourite (i.e. the one I can remember) was &quot;Teach Yourself Psychiatry&quot; by Beatrix I Klist.  Like this puzzle, not really thematic in the modern style, but fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Agreed &#8211; I don&#8217;t see why clues shouldn&#8217;t refer to TV shows when it&#8217;s OK to refer to Greek myth and the like.  There&#8217;s been some similar fuss about football references at Times for the Times recently, which at least suggests some kind of intellectual snobbery.</p>
<p>Thinking back, the puzzle reminds me of the Zander (i.e. Custos, i.e. Alec Robins) punny book title puzzles in the Listener &#8211; &#8220;Justyn Print&#8221; I think they were called.  The sample clue was, IIRC, &#8220;The Broken Window&#8221; &#8211; answer EVA BRICK.  My favourite (i.e. the one I can remember) was &#8220;Teach Yourself Psychiatry&#8221; by Beatrix I Klist.  Like this puzzle, not really thematic in the modern style, but fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Laws</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Laws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t HolyGhost being just a little po-faced?

You don&#039;t have to be Jewish (or even live in North London) to support Spurs, but if you do, you&#039;re a Yid (if I may use such a non-PC term), by football fandom&#039;s definition!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t HolyGhost being just a little po-faced?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to be Jewish (or even live in North London) to support Spurs, but if you do, you&#8217;re a Yid (if I may use such a non-PC term), by football fandom&#8217;s definition!</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought this was a great fun puzzle with EYEFUL TOWER the highlight and TOTTENHAM  the hardest part.   Like Peter, the VALET was the first I saw and it gave the idea.   A lot longer than 60 mins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this was a great fun puzzle with EYEFUL TOWER the highlight and TOTTENHAM  the hardest part.   Like Peter, the VALET was the first I saw and it gave the idea.   A lot longer than 60 mins.</p>
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