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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 24,939 (Sat 20 Feb)/Enigmatist &#8211; Criminal record</title>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gaufrid

Yes, I noticed that but it remains the case that the answer in the paper - at least the version printed here in France - is different.  Wonder which one they took for the prizewinners?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaufrid</p>
<p>Yes, I noticed that but it remains the case that the answer in the paper &#8211; at least the version printed here in France &#8211; is different.  Wonder which one they took for the prizewinners?</p>
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		<title>By: Gaufrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaufrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan
From the annotated solution on the Guardian website:

20 aright cryptic def [two wrongs don&#039;t make a right]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan<br />
From the annotated solution on the Guardian website:</p>
<p>20 aright cryptic def [two wrongs don't make a right]</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My copy of the paper (Monday 1 March) gives ALIGHT (not ARIGHT) as the answer to 20d.  This becomes even more cunning as it explains the &quot;Not correct!&quot; part of the clue, I think.  &quot;This&quot; is A LIGHT (i.e. a crossword entry), which is not 2 wrongs!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My copy of the paper (Monday 1 March) gives ALIGHT (not ARIGHT) as the answer to 20d.  This becomes even more cunning as it explains the &#8220;Not correct!&#8221; part of the clue, I think.  &#8220;This&#8221; is A LIGHT (i.e. a crossword entry), which is not 2 wrongs!</p>
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		<title>By: Chunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Davy and Sil,

Each blog post has its own RSS feed - today&#039;s is http://fifteensquared.net/2010/02/26/guardian-24939-sat-20-febenigmatist-criminal-record/feed/. Subscribe to it and you will be told when a new comment is added.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davy and Sil,</p>
<p>Each blog post has its own RSS feed &#8211; today&#8217;s is <a href="http://fifteensquared.net/2010/02/26/guardian-24939-sat-20-febenigmatist-criminal-record/feed/" rel="nofollow">http://fifteensquared.net/2010/02/26/guardian-24939-sat-20-febenigmatist-criminal-record/feed/</a>. Subscribe to it and you will be told when a new comment is added.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Davy,

Re your last point: I don&#039;t think I want my email address hanging around all over the place. 
And I regularly look at older blogs anyway.
Glad you see my point (Enigmatist giving Greer as an example for sexist in his clue - a word, which to me is rather negative).

So, why are there no male alternatives?
Maybe because men think they never needed a thing like feminism?
It&#039;s a man&#039;s man&#039;s world - unfortunately, still, I guess.

Anyway, let&#039;s close the discussion now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davy,</p>
<p>Re your last point: I don&#8217;t think I want my email address hanging around all over the place.<br />
And I regularly look at older blogs anyway.<br />
Glad you see my point (Enigmatist giving Greer as an example for sexist in his clue &#8211; a word, which to me is rather negative).</p>
<p>So, why are there no male alternatives?<br />
Maybe because men think they never needed a thing like feminism?<br />
It&#8217;s a man&#8217;s man&#8217;s world &#8211; unfortunately, still, I guess.</p>
<p>Anyway, let&#8217;s close the discussion now.</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sil,

This is getting sil(ly). I didn&#039;t find the clue in itself offensive. In fact it could be argued that sexist and feminist are synonyms although sexist is obviously pejorative. Correct me if I&#039;m wrong but there doesn&#039;t seem to be a similar word to feminist for men. I would call it masculist but the dictionary does not contain such a word. There is of course MCP but I won&#039;t go there.

Have a good day.

PS I do think it would be a good idea to treat each blog as a thread and to email all interested parties when a new comment is added. What do you think ?.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sil,</p>
<p>This is getting sil(ly). I didn&#8217;t find the clue in itself offensive. In fact it could be argued that sexist and feminist are synonyms although sexist is obviously pejorative. Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong but there doesn&#8217;t seem to be a similar word to feminist for men. I would call it masculist but the dictionary does not contain such a word. There is of course MCP but I won&#8217;t go there.</p>
<p>Have a good day.</p>
<p>PS I do think it would be a good idea to treat each blog as a thread and to email all interested parties when a new comment is added. What do you think ?.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Davy,

I do not miss the point completely.
I know perfectly well what your, sidey&#039;s and other&#039;s complaints were about.
And on this matter I fully agree with you all - no mistake about that.

But - and that&#039;s a different thing - there is reason to raise objections against the clue itself.
When you say &quot;It wasn’t Enigmatist describing Germaine Greer as a sexist&quot;, well, how should one explain the answer to 13ac then, from a cryptic point of view?
See what I mean? But maybe, it&#039;s just me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davy,</p>
<p>I do not miss the point completely.<br />
I know perfectly well what your, sidey&#8217;s and other&#8217;s complaints were about.<br />
And on this matter I fully agree with you all &#8211; no mistake about that.</p>
<p>But &#8211; and that&#8217;s a different thing &#8211; there is reason to raise objections against the clue itself.<br />
When you say &#8220;It wasn’t Enigmatist describing Germaine Greer as a sexist&#8221;, well, how should one explain the answer to 13ac then, from a cryptic point of view?<br />
See what I mean? But maybe, it&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sil,

I don&#039;t know whether you will read this as there is no alerting procedure but you seem to have missed the point completely. It wasn&#039;t Enigmatist describing Germaine Greer as a sexist, that was the problem. It was righback describing her as odious and then saying quote &quot;I would like to see her in a room with Mike Newell&quot;
(this has been edited now). The last two words were a hyperlink to a news article where the Luton Manager (Mr Newell) slags off women referees and women in general. I&#039;m sure you would agree that this is a strange remark although sidey put a more sinister slant on this. There was a schoolboy relish with which rightback made this remark.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sil,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether you will read this as there is no alerting procedure but you seem to have missed the point completely. It wasn&#8217;t Enigmatist describing Germaine Greer as a sexist, that was the problem. It was righback describing her as odious and then saying quote &#8220;I would like to see her in a room with Mike Newell&#8221;<br />
(this has been edited now). The last two words were a hyperlink to a news article where the Luton Manager (Mr Newell) slags off women referees and women in general. I&#8217;m sure you would agree that this is a strange remark although sidey put a more sinister slant on this. There was a schoolboy relish with which rightback made this remark.</p>
<p>END OF TOPIC</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fully accepted your apologies, rightback.
[haven&#039;t seen sidey and Davy since :( )

In the meantime (#25), I am still puzzled why no-one was critical about the setter - it was Enigmatist who turned Greer into a &#039;sexist&#039;.

But then, as the French say, &#039;soit&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fully accepted your apologies, rightback.<br />
[haven&#8217;t seen sidey and Davy since <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>In the meantime (#25), I am still puzzled why no-one was critical about the setter &#8211; it was Enigmatist who turned Greer into a &#8216;sexist&#8217;.</p>
<p>But then, as the French say, &#8216;soit&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: crikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>crikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said Rightback. Hopefully that&#039;s an end to it now. 

And Sidey, I&#039;m sorry you feel that way towards me (comment 27), but is there really any need to get personal?  So it&#039;s a &quot;******* odd world&quot; that I live in, is it? I would suggest that pretty much everyone who posts regularly on this site lives in an odd world to some degree. And all the better for it! I don&#039;t know about anyone else, but there are a great deal of my friends who find my crossword obsession bizarre...

Anyway, Vive La Difference, or something...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Rightback. Hopefully that&#8217;s an end to it now. </p>
<p>And Sidey, I&#8217;m sorry you feel that way towards me (comment 27), but is there really any need to get personal?  So it&#8217;s a &#8220;******* odd world&#8221; that I live in, is it? I would suggest that pretty much everyone who posts regularly on this site lives in an odd world to some degree. And all the better for it! I don&#8217;t know about anyone else, but there are a great deal of my friends who find my crossword obsession bizarre&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, Vive La Difference, or something&#8230;</p>
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