Comments on: Guardian 24,991 / Araucaria http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/04/22/guardian-24991-araucaria/ Never knowingly undersolved. Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:52:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Sil van den Hoek http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/04/22/guardian-24991-araucaria/#comment-107206 Sil van den Hoek Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:12:33 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=16832#comment-107206 Yeah, Bryan (#43), if you’re still there, I know that it is Le Rocher de Gibraltar, so perhaps: le Gib.
But do the French say ‘le Gib’, just like the English?
If so, then it’s fine, if not, then Araucaria is zigzagging through Le French & The English: LE (Fr) GIB (Eng) LE (Fr).
That was in the end my point and, I think, Martin H’s.

Indeed, Araucaria normally knows what he does, knows a lot more than me anyway – so I am not at all bothered.
[nor am I insulted by the word 'pedant' :) ]

]]> By: EdUS http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/04/22/guardian-24991-araucaria/#comment-107196 EdUS Fri, 23 Apr 2010 04:20:41 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=16832#comment-107196 I parsed 25A as G = “good/suitable” + REA (rhea misspelling) + T + BEAR (river flowing into Great Salt Lake)

]]> By: Daniel Miller http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/04/22/guardian-24991-araucaria/#comment-107189 Daniel Miller Fri, 23 Apr 2010 01:23:22 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=16832#comment-107189 Alpha Centauri – relatively straightforward to get from the clue but perhaps an anagram might have been vaguely possible! :)

]]> By: Martin H http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/04/22/guardian-24991-araucaria/#comment-107186 Martin H Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:02:11 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=16832#comment-107186 Sil – to echo ixion @44, in my book pedant is anything but an insult.

]]> By: Bryan http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/04/22/guardian-24991-araucaria/#comment-107184 Bryan Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:50:54 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=16832#comment-107184 Sil @43

It’s masculine:

Le rocher de Gibraltar

De rots van Gibraltar

I’m sure that Ary would have checked this very carefully.

]]> By: snigger http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/04/22/guardian-24991-araucaria/#comment-107182 snigger Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:32:03 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=16832#comment-107182 Please explain “hay wain” ??

]]> By: ixion http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/04/22/guardian-24991-araucaria/#comment-107178 ixion Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:43:00 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=16832#comment-107178 Apologies Sil – I didn’t mean pedant to sound insulting – I applaud your attention to detail in pursuit of the truth!

]]> By: Sil van den Hoek http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/04/22/guardian-24991-araucaria/#comment-107177 Sil van den Hoek Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:27:18 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=16832#comment-107177 Martin H, I don’t think I’m a pedant, rather someone who does not always know what is common in the Streets of London.
But I am completely happy with your explanation.
And indeed, the only thing that’s uncertain is whether the French say ‘le Gib’ or not. The French Wikipedia doesn’t.

]]> By: Martin H http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/04/22/guardian-24991-araucaria/#comment-107175 Martin H Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:55:03 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=16832#comment-107175 Sil, and other fellow pedants – It’s common to ask, “What is the French for…….?”; rather than “What is French for?”, so here we have ‘the French’ for ‘the’, ‘Gib’, and ‘the’, as you suggest, and the first ‘the’ is OK. But is the French for Gibraltar ‘Gib’? And if not, does the clue still work?

]]> By: ixion http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/04/22/guardian-24991-araucaria/#comment-107174 ixion Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:38:57 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=16832#comment-107174 Fellow pedant – I think the initial “The” is superfluous – French applies to what follows ie “the rock and the”.

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