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		<title>By: ernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 18:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Gaufrid.

NARCOLEPTIC/ERIC CLAPTON - Very good!

philander/Phil and ER - Brilliant!

TOILET ROLL also very good.

WINDSOR KNOT commendable.

Very satisfying overall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gaufrid.</p>
<p>NARCOLEPTIC/ERIC CLAPTON &#8211; Very good!</p>
<p>philander/Phil and ER &#8211; Brilliant!</p>
<p>TOILET ROLL also very good.</p>
<p>WINDSOR KNOT commendable.</p>
<p>Very satisfying overall.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/05/21/guardian-25016-paul/#comment-109656</link>
		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 16:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before this becomes pathetic, grotesque or completely out of proportion, I do one last effort to &#039;save my soul&#039; :) .
[sorry, Gaufrid, to get off-topic, but I have to]

Fletch,
(a) I am NOT saying that Paul is nicking my clues [why should I, and above all, why should he?]
(b) I do see (as some posts above clarify, including mine) that both anagrams may be &#039;old chestnuts&#039; to many solvers
 

But:
I am into crosswords [solving and, a bit later, clueing (as a hobby)] since only mid-2008, and at the time I sent in these clues to Paul&#039;s competition I really thought I &quot;discovered&quot; them myself [special attention to the quotation marks!]. Indeed, it is exactly as you say in your last line (&#039;that’s what happens when you get into clueing&#039;).

Why did I mention these clues then?
[as I said in #31: &#039;All this of no importance to you all, I know&#039;]
Well, until some weeks ago [when the decay of Cryptica became clear - without any notice, which is unfair to the several visitors] I sent in some 240 clues, of which 95 got mentioned.  Apparently, Paul did like a lot of them, which I appreciated.
Some clues that I thought were good ones, were rejected [but that&#039;s part of the game]. One of the rejected ones was a Paulish clue for &#039;toilet seat&#039; [my effort to write a Paul clue].
Every now and then, I had a déjà vu when solving (especially) Guardian crosswords - professional setters using one or two of the ideas/devices I had for Cryptica [I remember the great Rufus explaining &#039;bumblebee&#039; for an anagram of BEE, I remember Araucaria using a dictionary device in his 2009 Christmas puzzle that was similar to something that Paul rewarded a Gold with the remark &#039;a novel kind of clue&#039;]. 
These things happen, two people one idea. 
And I must say, I felt flattered to have some ideas in common with the Big Boys.


Phew, a long story (again) [but I seem to like it :(].

But maybe, you can imagine my feelings, when in one Paul crossword all at once there are 3 clues that had the same ideas/devices as some of the ones I sent in [and which were rejected, all three of them].
Because clueing has become one of my favourite hobbies, I felt a bit uncanny.
It affected my appreciation for the crossword [which was a good one, although I get tired of some types of Paulian clues].
That and only that was what I tried to express.

If someone&#039;s not interested in what I feel while solving, I do understand that and please ignore it. 
[although I regard it as a value added to my posts ever since I discovered 15^2 - an invaluable enrichment to my life in Britain!]

Hope I saved my soul :).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before this becomes pathetic, grotesque or completely out of proportion, I do one last effort to &#8216;save my soul&#8217; <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .<br />
[sorry, Gaufrid, to get off-topic, but I have to]</p>
<p>Fletch,<br />
(a) I am NOT saying that Paul is nicking my clues [why should I, and above all, why should he?]<br />
(b) I do see (as some posts above clarify, including mine) that both anagrams may be &#8216;old chestnuts&#8217; to many solvers</p>
<p>But:<br />
I am into crosswords [solving and, a bit later, clueing (as a hobby)] since only mid-2008, and at the time I sent in these clues to Paul&#8217;s competition I really thought I &#8220;discovered&#8221; them myself [special attention to the quotation marks!]. Indeed, it is exactly as you say in your last line (&#8216;that’s what happens when you get into clueing&#8217;).</p>
<p>Why did I mention these clues then?<br />
[as I said in #31: 'All this of no importance to you all, I know']<br />
Well, until some weeks ago [when the decay of Cryptica became clear - without any notice, which is unfair to the several visitors] I sent in some 240 clues, of which 95 got mentioned.  Apparently, Paul did like a lot of them, which I appreciated.<br />
Some clues that I thought were good ones, were rejected [but that's part of the game]. One of the rejected ones was a Paulish clue for &#8216;toilet seat&#8217; [my effort to write a Paul clue].<br />
Every now and then, I had a déjà vu when solving (especially) Guardian crosswords &#8211; professional setters using one or two of the ideas/devices I had for Cryptica [I remember the great Rufus explaining 'bumblebee' for an anagram of BEE, I remember Araucaria using a dictionary device in his 2009 Christmas puzzle that was similar to something that Paul rewarded a Gold with the remark 'a novel kind of clue'].<br />
These things happen, two people one idea.<br />
And I must say, I felt flattered to have some ideas in common with the Big Boys.</p>
<p>Phew, a long story (again) [but I seem to like it <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> ].</p>
<p>But maybe, you can imagine my feelings, when in one Paul crossword all at once there are 3 clues that had the same ideas/devices as some of the ones I sent in [and which were rejected, all three of them].<br />
Because clueing has become one of my favourite hobbies, I felt a bit uncanny.<br />
It affected my appreciation for the crossword [which was a good one, although I get tired of some types of Paulian clues].<br />
That and only that was what I tried to express.</p>
<p>If someone&#8217;s not interested in what I feel while solving, I do understand that and please ignore it.<br />
[although I regard it as a value added to my posts ever since I discovered 15^2 - an invaluable enrichment to my life in Britain!]</p>
<p>Hope I saved my soul <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 23:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sil, if I&#039;m reading you correctly, you seem to be implying Paul is nicking your clues.  The narcoleptic anagram of Eric Clapton is a bit of an old chestnut, likewise Eliot reversed in a clue for toilet.  I don&#039;t doubt you discovered them yourself, that&#039;s what happens when you get into clueing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sil, if I&#8217;m reading you correctly, you seem to be implying Paul is nicking your clues.  The narcoleptic anagram of Eric Clapton is a bit of an old chestnut, likewise Eliot reversed in a clue for toilet.  I don&#8217;t doubt you discovered them yourself, that&#8217;s what happens when you get into clueing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 10:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huw, I don&#039;t want to be the cleverest boy in class, but NARCOLEPTIC (as a noun) can also be &quot;a soporific drug that produces an uncontrollable desire to sleep&quot;.

And yes, this anagram must have been done before (and probably - like scarpia says - the TS Eliot thing, too). Even so I &quot;discovered&quot; them myself [after only just rolling into cryptics at that time, and certainly not being familiar with English literature etc].

The one and only thing I wanted to express is, the strange feeling that came over me solving the crossword [knowing that Paul did like a lot of my clues for his former competition]. It&#039;s something purely personal and perhaps I should not have annoyed other people with it. 
But, when I send in a post, I am not just interested in the technical aspects of a crossword or the final result - I also like to share my thoughts during the process of solving with others [so what I encounter on the way to the end].

Again, sorry for any misplaced POMPOSITY :).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huw, I don&#8217;t want to be the cleverest boy in class, but NARCOLEPTIC (as a noun) can also be &#8220;a soporific drug that produces an uncontrollable desire to sleep&#8221;.</p>
<p>And yes, this anagram must have been done before (and probably &#8211; like scarpia says &#8211; the TS Eliot thing, too). Even so I &#8220;discovered&#8221; them myself [after only just rolling into cryptics at that time, and certainly not being familiar with English literature etc].</p>
<p>The one and only thing I wanted to express is, the strange feeling that came over me solving the crossword [knowing that Paul did like a lot of my clues for his former competition]. It&#8217;s something purely personal and perhaps I should not have annoyed other people with it.<br />
But, when I send in a post, I am not just interested in the technical aspects of a crossword or the final result &#8211; I also like to share my thoughts during the process of solving with others [so what I encounter on the way to the end].</p>
<p>Again, sorry for any misplaced POMPOSITY <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/05/21/guardian-25016-paul/#comment-109568</link>
		<dc:creator>brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 07:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel a bit sheepish this morning as we, too, got misled by &#039;bleat&#039; which slowed up completion of that corner. I did, however, think having solved Eric Clapton that &#039;composition of&#039; signified another anagram rather than a song by him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel a bit sheepish this morning as we, too, got misled by &#8216;bleat&#8217; which slowed up completion of that corner. I did, however, think having solved Eric Clapton that &#8216;composition of&#8217; signified another anagram rather than a song by him.</p>
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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/05/21/guardian-25016-paul/#comment-109558</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 02:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;NARCOLEPTIC (‘Drug problem of Eric Clapton’)&quot;  Narcolepsy isn&#039;t a drug, it&#039;s a condition wherein one falls asleep involuntarily at odd times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NARCOLEPTIC (‘Drug problem of Eric Clapton’)&#8221;  Narcolepsy isn&#8217;t a drug, it&#8217;s a condition wherein one falls asleep involuntarily at odd times.</p>
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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 02:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also had BLEAT inked in for a while, making life difficult.  Loved! NARCOLEPTIC after a 15-minute search for Clapton songs ending in &quot;tic&quot; yielded nada and I suddenly realized &quot;composition&quot; could be an indicator.  Brilliant.  Also loved the &quot;philander&quot; clue, ironically I had thought, &quot;hmm, maybe that&#039;s &quot;phil and er&quot; but missed the refs to the Prince and Brenda.

Did not get 3 or 5, and I don&#039;t feel bad about it.

Thanks to Gaufrid and Paul!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also had BLEAT inked in for a while, making life difficult.  Loved! NARCOLEPTIC after a 15-minute search for Clapton songs ending in &#8220;tic&#8221; yielded nada and I suddenly realized &#8220;composition&#8221; could be an indicator.  Brilliant.  Also loved the &#8220;philander&#8221; clue, ironically I had thought, &#8220;hmm, maybe that&#8217;s &#8220;phil and er&#8221; but missed the refs to the Prince and Brenda.</p>
<p>Did not get 3 or 5, and I don&#8217;t feel bad about it.</p>
<p>Thanks to Gaufrid and Paul!</p>
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		<title>By: stiofain</title>
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		<dc:creator>stiofain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 01:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes scarpia the gordius clue was paulian and the paul clue gordian.
A joke on all our houses?
I dont know i loved this crossword]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes scarpia the gordius clue was paulian and the paul clue gordian.<br />
A joke on all our houses?<br />
I dont know i loved this crossword</p>
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		<title>By: scarpia</title>
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		<dc:creator>scarpia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 22:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Gaufrid.
Like everyone else I thoroughly enjoyed this.Made somewhat easier as I was already familiar with the Eric Clapton anagram and T.S Eliot for toilets I remember from my schooldays.
As nmsindy says 11 across can refer to George as well as Thomas Stearns.In the printed version the clue reads &#039;Giants of literature&#039; so no doubt refers to both.
Re 5 down - I think the Guardian crossword editor must have spotted the coincidence of the same phrase in the 2 puzzles and switched the clues as some kind of perverse joke!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gaufrid.<br />
Like everyone else I thoroughly enjoyed this.Made somewhat easier as I was already familiar with the Eric Clapton anagram and T.S Eliot for toilets I remember from my schooldays.<br />
As nmsindy says 11 across can refer to George as well as Thomas Stearns.In the printed version the clue reads &#8216;Giants of literature&#8217; so no doubt refers to both.<br />
Re 5 down &#8211; I think the Guardian crossword editor must have spotted the coincidence of the same phrase in the 2 puzzles and switched the clues as some kind of perverse joke!</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No fan of Clapton either, certainly didn&#039;t get &#039;narcoleptic&#039; (among others). 

Perth folk will be annoyed...i&#039;s a city, not a town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No fan of Clapton either, certainly didn&#8217;t get &#8216;narcoleptic&#8217; (among others). </p>
<p>Perth folk will be annoyed&#8230;i&#8217;s a city, not a town.</p>
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