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Independent 7406 by Klingsor

Posted by NealH on July 12th, 2010


*=anag, []=dropped, <=reversed, hom=homophone, CD=cryptic def, DD=double def, sp=spoonerism

I don’t know if this is a new setter or someone like Tees dressed up. In any case, I found it very difficult. With only half an hour available this morning, I didn’t have enough time to finish it and was forced to cheat. Some of the word associations like adapt for accommodate or less for minor, while probably allowed by the dictionary, seem a bit strange in normal usage.

1 Scotch Mist: Not completely sure on this one. I think the scotch = “put an end to” and time must be the t at the end, but I don’t quite see the rest.
6 Doom: [Chil]d + moo<.
10 Outings: (G[enerator] unit’s o)*. Fuse is the anagram indicator and trips the def.
11 Top Gear: Some sort of CD, I think, to do with gear changes (shift).
12 Choirgirl: Hom of quire + Irl (Ireland) around g(ood).
13 Inane: I think this is in[s]ane, with s clued as wiggly character.
14 Sight: S[l]ight.
15 Horseshoe: (He’s so her o)*.
17 Catalysis: (Icy [b]lasts a)*.
20 Orris: [M]orris.
21 Adapt: DA in apt, which is an abbrev for apartment.
23 Ingenious: (Unions gi[v]e)*.
25 Ego trip: E + OT in grip.
26 Opacity: A in op + city.
27 Tell: “Order William Hill to give away secrets”. “Give away secrets” is obviously the def and I can see it’s to do with William Tell, but where does Hill come in ?
28 Legal Eagle: I think this must be a CD, but I can’t say I’m very impressed with it.
1 Stoic: I in stoc[k].
2 Outfought: Ought after out f.
3 Congratulatory: Con + tory around (ultra Ga)*.
4 Messiah: Ess in Mia + h. Def is “one delivers”.
5 Settler: Settle + r.
7 Omega: O + mega.
8 Murderess: Murder + [l]ess. Murder is the collective noun for crows.
9 Upside down cake: CD indicated by hidden, reversal of cake in fenugreek actually.
14 Sacrament: Sacra (pl of sacrum, a bone in the spine) + men + t[omb].
16 Harrowing: Don’t follow this – “Injury contracted by fighting can be traumatic”.
18 Stipple: S + tipple.
19 Signora: Song* around I + RA.
22 Atoll: A toll.
24 Style: Not totally sure about this. Def seems to be “mode of behaviour” and the rest seems to have something to do with stye.

12 Responses to “Independent 7406 by Klingsor”

  1. Radler says:

    16d is Har(m) + rowing

  2. Gaufrid says:

    Hi Neal
    As you say, a bit tricky today.

    1ac SCOTCH (put an end to) M (minutes) I[nning]S T (time)

    27ac Four definitions, ‘order’, ‘William’ (Tell), ‘hill’ (in Arab lands, a hill or ancient mound formed from the accumulated debris from earlier mud or wattle habitations) and ‘to give away secrets’.

    24dn In botany a STYLE is the slender part of the pistil of a flower connecting the stigma and the ovary.

  3. anax says:

    A terrific second outing from Klingsor (aka Alberich of the FT) with his usual swathe of unexpected tricks and beautifully coherent surface readings. I’d probably have found this much tougher if I didn’t know it was Klingsor!

    It’s a bit difficult to pick out favourite clues – for me, surface reading is everything and I couldn’t really see anything that was less than great. The only negative I could find was the “hill” definition in 27a which was too obscure for me but I can probably put that down to lack of knowledge on my part.

    As expected from Klingsor, an excellent and entertaining challenge.

  4. Kathryn's Dad says:

    A bit impossible, more like … for me, anyway. I got three, cheated the rest and am still struggling to understand some. Ho hum, at least Rufus in the Grauniad was a gentle stroll today.

  5. Derrick Knight says:

    Harder than usual for a Monday, but an excellent puzzle. UPSIDE DOWN CAKE was my favourite. Good to see the clue taking into account the direction of the entry – enabled me to get it, even though I’d not heard of such a cake!

  6. nmsindy says:

    This was extremely difficult and extremely good with great variety and invention. I found the SE corner the hardest. You might have missed the previous Klingsor Indy appearance, NealH, because it was on a weekend.

    Favourite clues, DOOM, INANE, MURDERESS, SIGNORA.

  7. Scarpia says:

    What an excellent puzzle!
    Tough,but so many great clues,with some unusual devices and some brilliant misdirections.
    19 down must be in the running for clue of the year!Other favourites were 6 across and 4 and 9 down.
    The only low point for me was the cryptic definition at 28 across – I’m assuming it’s a CD,but I may be missing something here.
    Didn’t know the “hill” definition of “tell”,but I always enjoy learning new words/meanings.

  8. nmsindy says:

    Yes, Scarpia, I think 28A is as you say a cryptic definition, punning on suit(legal case)

  9. Richard says:

    I agree that this was pretty difficult, and that it was a superbly constructed puzzle. It took me a long time to complete, but I derived a great deal of satisfaction from it. Eimi, please keep up the high standard of puzzles on a Monday, as the fare we get from elsewhere is usually nowhere near this class!

  10. Sil van den Hoek says:

    Well, Richard (#9), we started today with ‘something from elsewhere’ [Rufus].
    Because we still felt hungry after (quickly) solving it, we thought: Why not take the Indy? [was lying around at the place where we had a coffee].

    Indeed, a puzzle from a completely different part of Crypticland.
    We found everything without aides except for some words in the NW. And to be honest, we didn’t understand some of them (like SCOTCH MIST, MURDERESS and TELL).
    So, thanks NealH, for explaining [with a little help from your friends :)].
    Now that I understand MURDERESS, I can’t say this was a great clue, nor was LEGAL EAGLE or TOP GEAR [ah, well, cd’s, ay?].
    And although 26ac was OK, I am not sure if it’s fair to clue CITY with ‘Berlin?’ [despite the question mark].

    But the rest was of the Highest Order.
    Like scarpia, I think 19d (SIGNORA) and 6ac (DOOM) are marvellous – and after anax unravelled the “nature of the beast” [well, um, :)], I thought: yes, of course.
    Trademark Alberich & now Klingsor, using terms/names that shouldn’t be taken as a whole but instead split up.
    Another winner the UPSIDE-DOWN CAKE [never eaten one, though].

    As always (as far as I know) splendid surfaces combined with 23ac clu(e)ing.
    I am not saying Klingsor [like Alberich a Wagnerian pseudonym] is the 4d, but he is certainly worth of becoming a household name for Indy solvers!

    Great stuff.

  11. nmsindy says:

    While descriptions can overlap a bit, I think TOP GEAR is a two-part clue ie (1) If you work a shift you may change into this – reference to motoring and (2) hat = top gear (kind of cryptic definition ie gear – an item of clothing – that goes on top.

  12. Martin H says:

    Some great stuff here from a setter I’ve never seen before, and would have missed had it not been a Monday. Full of challenging and witty clues; 19 and 13 stand out.
    Niggles: ‘abandoned’ indicating emptied in 1; ‘tell’ = hill in 27 really does force the surface – I understand how a setter can get attached to the surface of a clue, but sometimes it is simply better to let it go and try another approach; 6:’moo'(sound) is the nicest use of the much-misused ‘neat’ that I’ve seen, but please, no more, quit while you’re ahead; and ‘legal eagle’ (unless I’m missing something), I thought I was back ‘elsewhere’.


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