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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t do any crosswords last weekend-plus.
Therefore we thought it was a good idea to do this Crucible today instead of Quantum [which we are reluctant to do nowadays, just like Rover].

What a delight!

Apart from the Ulster thing, we only asked ourselves: Is a hill really a mountain? [or vice versa]

This was probably the best Crucible so far.
Lovely surfaces, original devices, no throwaway clues.
Not even that hard, too. Dictionaries &amp; Internet weren&#039;t needed.
And what&#039;s very important: no superfluous words, everything&#039;s just right (like e.g. in 9ac). And dare I say: a bit un-Guardianesque.

Agree with Paul B when he says &quot;A theme of ‘good clues’ is just as welcome&quot; [as a &#039;normal&#039; theme].

In a recent Alberich blog I stated: &quot;Some crosswords are better than others, and this was not one of the others&quot;.
I would like to repeat it here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t do any crosswords last weekend-plus.<br />
Therefore we thought it was a good idea to do this Crucible today instead of Quantum [which we are reluctant to do nowadays, just like Rover].</p>
<p>What a delight!</p>
<p>Apart from the Ulster thing, we only asked ourselves: Is a hill really a mountain? [or vice versa]</p>
<p>This was probably the best Crucible so far.<br />
Lovely surfaces, original devices, no throwaway clues.<br />
Not even that hard, too. Dictionaries &amp; Internet weren&#8217;t needed.<br />
And what&#8217;s very important: no superfluous words, everything&#8217;s just right (like e.g. in 9ac). And dare I say: a bit un-Guardianesque.</p>
<p>Agree with Paul B when he says &#8220;A theme of ‘good clues’ is just as welcome&#8221; [as a 'normal' theme].</p>
<p>In a recent Alberich blog I stated: &#8220;Some crosswords are better than others, and this was not one of the others&#8221;.<br />
I would like to repeat it here.</p>
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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 21:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with most that this was a very agreeable puzzle, with some wonderful clues indeed.

Sadly I missed PEAK (shouldn&#039;t have, I was on the right track) and PAPILLA, which I doubt I would ever have managed, although I was working with ILL, pope = PAPA would never really have popped for me, and of course the surface was keeping me from interpreting &quot;minor eminence&quot; in the appropriate manner.

The only clue I put a question mark next to was VIOLA, but that&#039;s because I didn&#039;t bother to check if it was a river or plant.

Thanks Crucible and Eileen!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most that this was a very agreeable puzzle, with some wonderful clues indeed.</p>
<p>Sadly I missed PEAK (shouldn&#8217;t have, I was on the right track) and PAPILLA, which I doubt I would ever have managed, although I was working with ILL, pope = PAPA would never really have popped for me, and of course the surface was keeping me from interpreting &#8220;minor eminence&#8221; in the appropriate manner.</p>
<p>The only clue I put a question mark next to was VIOLA, but that&#8217;s because I didn&#8217;t bother to check if it was a river or plant.</p>
<p>Thanks Crucible and Eileen!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 01:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glad to hear you have no personal problems, Scarpia. Don&#039;t know what you mean by &#039;many too clever for their own good&#039;: examples?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear you have no personal problems, Scarpia. Don&#8217;t know what you mean by &#8216;many too clever for their own good&#8217;: examples?</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi DippyD

 I thought there might have been more objection to this clue but I think  but you need to think YEW = [type of] wood and then add the S!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DippyD</p>
<p> I thought there might have been more objection to this clue but I think  but you need to think YEW = [type of] wood and then add the S!</p>
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		<title>By: DippyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DippyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eileen - I just didn&#039;t get the YEWS as woods! By the way, I really liked LETHARGIC too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eileen &#8211; I just didn&#8217;t get the YEWS as woods! By the way, I really liked LETHARGIC too!</p>
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		<title>By: Myrvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myrvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fancy us all missing 5d.

El Stano. It looks to me as if it&#039;s just there to allow the second use of &#039;base&#039; in the clue. Not very satisfactory if that&#039;s so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fancy us all missing 5d.</p>
<p>El Stano. It looks to me as if it&#8217;s just there to allow the second use of &#8216;base&#8217; in the clue. Not very satisfactory if that&#8217;s so.</p>
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		<title>By: El Stano</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Stano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi DippD
It&#039;s E(nglish) + YEWS (woods) with [I (one) + TNES (sent backwards)] inserted between the W and the S (of YEWS).
IYSWIM!

BTW what is the use of &quot;Yes&quot; in 7d anybody?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DippD<br />
It&#8217;s E(nglish) + YEWS (woods) with [I (one) + TNES (sent backwards)] inserted between the W and the S (of YEWS).<br />
IYSWIM!</p>
<p>BTW what is the use of &#8220;Yes&#8221; in 7d anybody?</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi DippyD

Apologies for the omission - and no one else noticed!

It&#039;s I [one] + reversal of SENT in E[nglish] YEWS [woods]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DippyD</p>
<p>Apologies for the omission &#8211; and no one else noticed!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s I [one] + reversal of SENT in E[nglish] YEWS [woods]</p>
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		<title>By: DippyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DippyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to come late to this but could someone explain 5dn please - the answer given is &#039;eyewitness&#039; which I got but I don&#039;t know why!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to come late to this but could someone explain 5dn please &#8211; the answer given is &#8216;eyewitness&#8217; which I got but I don&#8217;t know why!</p>
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		<title>By: Scarpia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scarpia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eileen.
As generally agreed a super puzzle from Crucible.Personally had no problems with any of the points debated here - ADULT/indecent:FI/Fiona:investigates as insertion indicator:foreign as anagrind; allfine by me.
Ulster/NI has become standard usage in &quot;crosswordland&quot; so I guess we should be used to it by now and just have to put up with it.
PaulB @43 - totally agree a puzzle crammed with good clues far outstrips &quot;many too clever for their own good&quot; themed efforts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eileen.<br />
As generally agreed a super puzzle from Crucible.Personally had no problems with any of the points debated here &#8211; ADULT/indecent:FI/Fiona:investigates as insertion indicator:foreign as anagrind; allfine by me.<br />
Ulster/NI has become standard usage in &#8220;crosswordland&#8221; so I guess we should be used to it by now and just have to put up with it.<br />
PaulB @43 &#8211; totally agree a puzzle crammed with good clues far outstrips &#8220;many too clever for their own good&#8221; themed efforts.</p>
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