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	<title>Comments on: Azed 1993</title>
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	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
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		<title>By: NormanHall</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/08/15/azed-1993/#comment-125315</link>
		<dc:creator>NormanHall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 08:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[21D HAULAGE:  substitute &#039;AULA&#039; (= hall) for &#039;U&#039; (as opposed to non-U = Top-class) in &#039;HUGE&#039; = (very large)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>21D HAULAGE:  substitute &#8216;AULA&#8217; (= hall) for &#8216;U&#8217; (as opposed to non-U = Top-class) in &#8216;HUGE&#8217; = (very large)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/08/15/azed-1993/#comment-117461</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Withdraw previous comment: Nick @6 got there first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Withdraw previous comment: Nick @6 got there first.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/08/15/azed-1993/#comment-117459</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[32 CHOBDAR: BD = bound, in (a _orch)* (i.e. torch, with the heading off).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32 CHOBDAR: BD = bound, in (a _orch)* (i.e. torch, with the heading off).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[29 RIMOSE: RISE = elevation, split by MO = more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29 RIMOSE: RISE = elevation, split by MO = more.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myrvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 17:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For what it&#039;s worth, I thought it might have something to to do with miSTAKE. But that doesn&#039;t work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I thought it might have something to to do with miSTAKE. But that doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: The trafites</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/08/15/azed-1993/#comment-117451</link>
		<dc:creator>The trafites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 17:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re 4dn, AZED seems to like these type clues, using puns upon &#039;NO ISE&#039; (or xyz etc.).  But as Myrvin states, how do you deduce the answer from a &#039;blunder with no ise&#039; = &#039;bet&#039; cold?  Convoluted, maybe even an obtuse type clue, impossible to solve unless with nearly all the checking letters.

Mind you, having said that, yesterday&#039;s Listener with printer&#039;s devilry... ARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHH


Nick ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 4dn, AZED seems to like these type clues, using puns upon &#8216;NO ISE&#8217; (or xyz etc.).  But as Myrvin states, how do you deduce the answer from a &#8216;blunder with no ise&#8217; = &#8216;bet&#8217; cold?  Convoluted, maybe even an obtuse type clue, impossible to solve unless with nearly all the checking letters.</p>
<p>Mind you, having said that, yesterday&#8217;s Listener with printer&#8217;s devilry&#8230; ARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHH</p>
<p>Nick <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Myrvin</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/08/15/azed-1993/#comment-117448</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob. That&#039;s how lots of us got it of course. There have recently been discussions suggesting that all clues should be capable of solution without the crossing letters. We need to know the word which will, if ISE is taken away, produce the answer If we don&#039;t know it, the clue don&#039;t work. Just having enough letters to guess the word is not good enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob. That&#8217;s how lots of us got it of course. There have recently been discussions suggesting that all clues should be capable of solution without the crossing letters. We need to know the word which will, if ISE is taken away, produce the answer If we don&#8217;t know it, the clue don&#8217;t work. Just having enough letters to guess the word is not good enough.</p>
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		<title>By: sidey</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/08/15/azed-1993/#comment-117447</link>
		<dc:creator>sidey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gaufrid @ 17

Thanks for the lucid explanation. 

I suspect an editor&#039;s hand in producing an atypically unfair clue.

I have no idea what Bob Sharkey is on about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaufrid @ 17</p>
<p>Thanks for the lucid explanation. </p>
<p>I suspect an editor&#8217;s hand in producing an atypically unfair clue.</p>
<p>I have no idea what Bob Sharkey is on about.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sharkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sharkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Azed puzzles are very generously cross-checked. The solution to 4D is obvious given noi?e and a simple synonym at one end.  It is therefore reasonable to take the rest of the clue as its subsidiary, with &#039;this&#039; apparently standing for &#039;noise&#039;. For parsing, this leads to (some word meaning &#039;blunder&#039;) + noise = &#039;bet&#039;.  How could this be understood?  Logically, only &#039;noise&#039; could be taken to represent some operator that would lead to the missing word, since we are told that there is some relationship between that word and &#039;bet&#039;.  The rest is straightforward, and not the impossible conundrum postulated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Azed puzzles are very generously cross-checked. The solution to 4D is obvious given noi?e and a simple synonym at one end.  It is therefore reasonable to take the rest of the clue as its subsidiary, with &#8216;this&#8217; apparently standing for &#8216;noise&#8217;. For parsing, this leads to (some word meaning &#8216;blunder&#8217;) + noise = &#8216;bet&#8217;.  How could this be understood?  Logically, only &#8216;noise&#8217; could be taken to represent some operator that would lead to the missing word, since we are told that there is some relationship between that word and &#8216;bet&#8217;.  The rest is straightforward, and not the impossible conundrum postulated.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrvin</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/08/15/azed-1993/#comment-117440</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AZEDs are bad enough with solution words that nobody&#039;s ever heard of. If he&#039;s doing reverse clues with words we&#039;ve never heard of, that don&#039;t even appear, I think that&#039;s pretty spiteful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AZEDs are bad enough with solution words that nobody&#8217;s ever heard of. If he&#8217;s doing reverse clues with words we&#8217;ve never heard of, that don&#8217;t even appear, I think that&#8217;s pretty spiteful.</p>
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