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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 25091 &#8211; Araucaria</title>
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		<title>By: maarvarq</title>
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		<dc:creator>maarvarq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 03:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really have to keep a spare crossword to save myself from exercises in frustration too often dished up by this complier, like this one. I got it out, but only because i was determined that he wouldn&#039;t beat me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really have to keep a spare crossword to save myself from exercises in frustration too often dished up by this complier, like this one. I got it out, but only because i was determined that he wouldn&#8217;t beat me.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Late entry - out all day yesterday. An enjoyable (mostly) crossword and the usual effervescent commentary from UY.

The long charades which Araucaria is so fond of are my least favourite of his clues. I find myself getting the solution from a few crossing letters and the numeration and then checking against the always admirably ingenious charade. OK for the odd one-word solution maybe, but not when it involves so much of the grid.

I&#039;m as much of an admirer of Araucaria as anyone, and have been since he first began to set for The Guardian - but can I make a plea for an end to &quot;The Master&quot;: firstly it&#039;s pushing an opinion unnecessarily - not everyone agrees and it does seem a bit like a challenge or a put-down to those who don&#039;t; secondly, isn&#039;t this sort of forelock-tugging a bit unseemly nowadays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late entry &#8211; out all day yesterday. An enjoyable (mostly) crossword and the usual effervescent commentary from UY.</p>
<p>The long charades which Araucaria is so fond of are my least favourite of his clues. I find myself getting the solution from a few crossing letters and the numeration and then checking against the always admirably ingenious charade. OK for the odd one-word solution maybe, but not when it involves so much of the grid.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m as much of an admirer of Araucaria as anyone, and have been since he first began to set for The Guardian &#8211; but can I make a plea for an end to &#8220;The Master&#8221;: firstly it&#8217;s pushing an opinion unnecessarily &#8211; not everyone agrees and it does seem a bit like a challenge or a put-down to those who don&#8217;t; secondly, isn&#8217;t this sort of forelock-tugging a bit unseemly nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tupu @31 - yes, my misreading I&#039;m afraid!  I had got my &#039;m&#039;s mixed up.  I see it now, thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tupu @31 &#8211; yes, my misreading I&#8217;m afraid!  I had got my &#8216;m&#8217;s mixed up.  I see it now, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enjoyed this. Liked the NI and Scotland geographical answers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed this. Liked the NI and Scotland geographical answers.</p>
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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tupu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Eileen
 :) Stay well! 
Oddly, there is nothing complicated in my suggestion. Spey (strathspey) = round  to dance - no more is needed. All connections are quite well supported.

Let&#039;s leave it with Mark @48.

 :) BTW I don&#039;t think we are &#039;misunderstanding each other&#039; - just possibly seeing a bit differently. And mostly I trust your judgment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eileen<br />
 <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Stay well!<br />
Oddly, there is nothing complicated in my suggestion. Spey (strathspey) = round  to dance &#8211; no more is needed. All connections are quite well supported.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s leave it with Mark @48.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  BTW I don&#8217;t think we are &#8216;misunderstanding each other&#8217; &#8211; just possibly seeing a bit differently. And mostly I trust your judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi tupu and Mryvin

As I said, I&#039;ve had [almost! :-) ] my last word @ 45: you&#039;ve both completely lost me! As I said, it seems to me eminently simple - maybe even, after all, for me, one of of the easier clues! 

Sleep well! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi tupu and Mryvin</p>
<p>As I said, I&#8217;ve had [almost! <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ] my last word @ 45: you&#8217;ve both completely lost me! As I said, it seems to me eminently simple &#8211; maybe even, after all, for me, one of of the easier clues! </p>
<p>Sleep well! <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tupu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Myrvin

OED also shows that &#039;dance a round&#039; (or his, her, their round(s)) is a longstanding standard expression with both literal and metaphorical uses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Myrvin</p>
<p>OED also shows that &#8216;dance a round&#8217; (or his, her, their round(s)) is a longstanding standard expression with both literal and metaphorical uses.</p>
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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tupu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Myrvin

We crossed. As you say the weaknes is lack of a dictionary ref. to spey + dance. But see the website (one of at least two).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Myrvin</p>
<p>We crossed. As you say the weaknes is lack of a dictionary ref. to spey + dance. But see the website (one of at least two).</p>
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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tupu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry. It should just be 11a (once)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. It should just be 11a (once)</p>
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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tupu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Eileen

Elegant as ever! And my experience tells me to respect your eye for a clue! But a niggle of doubt remains since the surface any way round is a bit strained. 

ALSO NB the OED defines &#039;round&#039; 

11a. 11. a. A dance in which the performers move in a circle or ring, or around a room, etc. 

This fits my case quite well (see above website). &#039;Spey&#039;, as the websites show, is clearly a recognised form of &#039;strathspey&#039; in the Scottish dancing world and often seems to be a &#039;round&#039; (which one dances).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eileen</p>
<p>Elegant as ever! And my experience tells me to respect your eye for a clue! But a niggle of doubt remains since the surface any way round is a bit strained. </p>
<p>ALSO NB the OED defines &#8217;round&#8217; </p>
<p>11a. 11. a. A dance in which the performers move in a circle or ring, or around a room, etc. </p>
<p>This fits my case quite well (see above website). &#8216;Spey&#8217;, as the websites show, is clearly a recognised form of &#8216;strathspey&#8217; in the Scottish dancing world and often seems to be a &#8217;round&#8217; (which one dances).</p>
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