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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 25,116 – Orlando</title>
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	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/09/15/guardian-25116-%e2%80%93-orlando/#comment-121469</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Handel and Orlando.

Very enjoyable, it&#039;s been a while since I completed a puzzle on the G.  I don&#039;t mind the hard ones, although I never know when to &quot;give up&quot; and come here (I&#039;m still &quot;working&quot; on Araucaria&#039;s bank holiday prize puzzle, for example...).

With the exception of double-checking that REEDLING is a bird, I even finished the whole thing &quot;out of my own head&quot; which is even nicer.  I&#039;m sure some of you solved this as fast as you could type/write!

GOSH went in &quot;last&quot; which I got a chuckle from given the &quot;shoes&quot; in the clue.

I didn&#039;t catch the &quot;leg ends&quot; explanation but I made up my own awful reason why it made sense - &quot;legends&quot; = &quot;feats&quot; = &quot;feets&quot; = &quot;PLATES OF MEAT&quot;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Handel and Orlando.</p>
<p>Very enjoyable, it&#8217;s been a while since I completed a puzzle on the G.  I don&#8217;t mind the hard ones, although I never know when to &#8220;give up&#8221; and come here (I&#8217;m still &#8220;working&#8221; on Araucaria&#8217;s bank holiday prize puzzle, for example&#8230;).</p>
<p>With the exception of double-checking that REEDLING is a bird, I even finished the whole thing &#8220;out of my own head&#8221; which is even nicer.  I&#8217;m sure some of you solved this as fast as you could type/write!</p>
<p>GOSH went in &#8220;last&#8221; which I got a chuckle from given the &#8220;shoes&#8221; in the clue.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t catch the &#8220;leg ends&#8221; explanation but I made up my own awful reason why it made sense &#8211; &#8220;legends&#8221; = &#8220;feats&#8221; = &#8220;feets&#8221; = &#8220;PLATES OF MEAT&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know this is a day late but do think it worth sharing for those who didn&#039;t pick up the leg end reference in 11dn.

Is Michael Foot a legend in his own time? (Graffitti, probably apocryphal, presumably pre-03/03/2010) 

I liked it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is a day late but do think it worth sharing for those who didn&#8217;t pick up the leg end reference in 11dn.</p>
<p>Is Michael Foot a legend in his own time? (Graffitti, probably apocryphal, presumably pre-03/03/2010) </p>
<p>I liked it!</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sil,

By straightforward I meant a set of clues not having a theme. The clues were not straightforward in the ordinary sense at all. They were inventive, well-constructed and had a distinctive style.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sil,</p>
<p>By straightforward I meant a set of clues not having a theme. The clues were not straightforward in the ordinary sense at all. They were inventive, well-constructed and had a distinctive style.</p>
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		<title>By: frances</title>
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		<dc:creator>frances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stella @18 - A belated thanks. So clear once it&#039;s explained.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stella @18 &#8211; A belated thanks. So clear once it&#8217;s explained.</p>
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		<title>By: muck</title>
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		<dc:creator>muck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought &#039;leg ends&#039; was pretty good
But you can&#039;t do better than HOT CHOCOLATE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought &#8216;leg ends&#8217; was pretty good<br />
But you can&#8217;t do better than HOT CHOCOLATE</p>
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		<title>By: MattD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@9 thankyou Handel. Should have guessed that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@9 thankyou Handel. Should have guessed that.</p>
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		<title>By: brr</title>
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		<dc:creator>brr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really enjoyed this one, despite not getting 19ac and 25ac. Orlando always seems to set a puzzle that makes me determined to try and finish his next one. No bad thing in my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed this one, despite not getting 19ac and 25ac. Orlando always seems to set a puzzle that makes me determined to try and finish his next one. No bad thing in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have read the above comments now twice.
And ... zero criticism on the clueing.
Does this ever happen?

As visitors of this site might have noticed on previous occasions, I have a soft spot for the talents of Michael Curl [who, btw, recently put a lot of Orlandos on his reanimated website (see: Announcements) - so take your pick].
However, though perhaps true, Davy&#039;s final comment &quot;I think Orlando has set the standard today for a straightforward, very entertaining puzzle&quot;, doesn&#039;t do him fully justice.

Orlando isn&#039;t always as straightforward or at the easier side of the spectrum as today.
In fact, I found this crossword more like one of his alter ego in the FT (Cincinnus) - indeed, an ideal Quiptic [but please do keep in mind that a lot of these clues are really clever and thoughtful, and the product of real craftsmanship]. 
Although, I think, it is not on to dismiss Quiptic setters in general calling them &#039;trifles&#039;.

This puzzle was a good example of how easy crosswords can still be very satisfying to solve, mainly because of the quality of the clueing.

My Clue of the Day? I think 1ac, because of the very original (and apt) second part of the clue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read the above comments now twice.<br />
And &#8230; zero criticism on the clueing.<br />
Does this ever happen?</p>
<p>As visitors of this site might have noticed on previous occasions, I have a soft spot for the talents of Michael Curl [who, btw, recently put a lot of Orlandos on his reanimated website (see: Announcements) - so take your pick].<br />
However, though perhaps true, Davy&#8217;s final comment &#8220;I think Orlando has set the standard today for a straightforward, very entertaining puzzle&#8221;, doesn&#8217;t do him fully justice.</p>
<p>Orlando isn&#8217;t always as straightforward or at the easier side of the spectrum as today.<br />
In fact, I found this crossword more like one of his alter ego in the FT (Cincinnus) &#8211; indeed, an ideal Quiptic [but please do keep in mind that a lot of these clues are really clever and thoughtful, and the product of real craftsmanship].<br />
Although, I think, it is not on to dismiss Quiptic setters in general calling them &#8216;trifles&#8217;.</p>
<p>This puzzle was a good example of how easy crosswords can still be very satisfying to solve, mainly because of the quality of the clueing.</p>
<p>My Clue of the Day? I think 1ac, because of the very original (and apt) second part of the clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stella @ no 15, that is a priceless link ... he&#039;s a bird I definitely wouldn&#039;t want to get to know!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stella @ no 15, that is a priceless link &#8230; he&#8217;s a bird I definitely wouldn&#8217;t want to get to know!</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[walruss is perfectly capable of speaking for himself, of course, but I took his reply to my comment as being what Uncle Yap would call &#039;tichy&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>walruss is perfectly capable of speaking for himself, of course, but I took his reply to my comment as being what Uncle Yap would call &#8216;tichy&#8217;.</p>
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