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		<title>By: Tees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 01:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anax you&#039;re an absolute luvvie as always. Many thanks.

Flash glad to hear you&#039;re on the mend, but watch those NSAIDs - they can twist your bowel almost as much as your mind. I&#039;m on Elastoplast and Paracetamol.

Re the progness, we&#039;re just about to get the .wavs (the wave files that contain the individual instrument performances) into Big Matey who - he says - will do some magick with them. Following that, I&#039;ll post up some new links.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anax you&#8217;re an absolute luvvie as always. Many thanks.</p>
<p>Flash glad to hear you&#8217;re on the mend, but watch those NSAIDs &#8211; they can twist your bowel almost as much as your mind. I&#8217;m on Elastoplast and Paracetamol.</p>
<p>Re the progness, we&#8217;re just about to get the .wavs (the wave files that contain the individual instrument performances) into Big Matey who &#8211; he says &#8211; will do some magick with them. Following that, I&#8217;ll post up some new links.</p>
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		<title>By: flashling</title>
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		<dc:creator>flashling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 21:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sympathy Tees, been to quack and got some diclofenac tablets which are miracle workers for me. Can&#039;t tell I&#039;ve done anything to my back. Keep up the good work and hope we&#039;ll see you soon. I notice the track you posted has expired any way to hear more of your stuff?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sympathy Tees, been to quack and got some diclofenac tablets which are miracle workers for me. Can&#8217;t tell I&#8217;ve done anything to my back. Keep up the good work and hope we&#8217;ll see you soon. I notice the track you posted has expired any way to hear more of your stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: anax</title>
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		<dc:creator>anax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 18:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another top teeser from the Teester. As the BB=King device is one I&#039;ve smuggled into the occasional puzzle it gave me no problems, but it&#039;s the evilly clever def that makes this my fave of a great bunch of clues.

Thank you Tees for thrashing the drumkit of Indy creativity. I love you darling (but only &#039;cause you&#039;re a fellow muso).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another top teeser from the Teester. As the BB=King device is one I&#8217;ve smuggled into the occasional puzzle it gave me no problems, but it&#8217;s the evilly clever def that makes this my fave of a great bunch of clues.</p>
<p>Thank you Tees for thrashing the drumkit of Indy creativity. I love you darling (but only &#8217;cause you&#8217;re a fellow muso).</p>
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		<title>By: walruss</title>
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		<dc:creator>walruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 15:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a quickie as I couldn&#039;t get on yesterday thanks to my internet connection going up the spout. Nice to see a plain puzzle, which in a curious way makes a refreshing change! But I think we were treated to nice clues as others say above. Liked the Hitler anagram instead of the bog standard &#039;keeps up&#039; joke we always get, but I wouldn&#039;t have expected anything less from the Indy&#039;s creative team. Good stuff, as was today&#039;s Raich.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quickie as I couldn&#8217;t get on yesterday thanks to my internet connection going up the spout. Nice to see a plain puzzle, which in a curious way makes a refreshing change! But I think we were treated to nice clues as others say above. Liked the Hitler anagram instead of the bog standard &#8216;keeps up&#8217; joke we always get, but I wouldn&#8217;t have expected anything less from the Indy&#8217;s creative team. Good stuff, as was today&#8217;s Raich.</p>
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		<title>By: Tees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hiyall, and many thanks for comments. Cheers also to NMS for his fab blog. Sorry to hear about your back Flashling - Tees gets the same problem from time to time. E.g. now.

&#039;Pon th&#039; clews, taken in Sil order, IMP EACH I saw as synonymous with &#039;everyone having wicked spirit&#039;. In UNORIGINAL, yes, I intended to instruct solvers to place NO RIG on U&#039;s right-hand side, followed by the IN A L. &#039;To&#039; in the ARIoSTO clue is used as in the phrase &#039;sixteen ounces to the pound&#039;: that is, there are (in most cases) a certain number of SI or cryptic elements TO any required word or phrase. (I know some folks do not warm to this one, but I&#039;ve always seen it as logical.) BB for King is, I must reluctantly admit, dread definition by example, as B.B. is only one of the many Kings - Mrs Billie Jean is not quite so useful to us logodaedalists - available: but how bored are we with the usual crosswordese? And how accurate is some of that anyway? Bah.

Lastly, the L+IKE thing was the subject of debate in an online pre-publication meeting, in which I stuck up for the L being quite literally behind in any language that&#039;s read from L to R, but also offered the alternative &#039;American General left at the front&#039;. So no, it wasn&#039;t a mistake.

Many thanks again, get well soon Flash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiyall, and many thanks for comments. Cheers also to NMS for his fab blog. Sorry to hear about your back Flashling &#8211; Tees gets the same problem from time to time. E.g. now.</p>
<p>&#8216;Pon th&#8217; clews, taken in Sil order, IMP EACH I saw as synonymous with &#8216;everyone having wicked spirit&#8217;. In UNORIGINAL, yes, I intended to instruct solvers to place NO RIG on U&#8217;s right-hand side, followed by the IN A L. &#8216;To&#8217; in the ARIoSTO clue is used as in the phrase &#8216;sixteen ounces to the pound&#8217;: that is, there are (in most cases) a certain number of SI or cryptic elements TO any required word or phrase. (I know some folks do not warm to this one, but I&#8217;ve always seen it as logical.) BB for King is, I must reluctantly admit, dread definition by example, as B.B. is only one of the many Kings &#8211; Mrs Billie Jean is not quite so useful to us logodaedalists &#8211; available: but how bored are we with the usual crosswordese? And how accurate is some of that anyway? Bah.</p>
<p>Lastly, the L+IKE thing was the subject of debate in an online pre-publication meeting, in which I stuck up for the L being quite literally behind in any language that&#8217;s read from L to R, but also offered the alternative &#8216;American General left at the front&#8217;. So no, it wasn&#8217;t a mistake.</p>
<p>Many thanks again, get well soon Flash.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nmsindy @10 and scchua @11, thanks, I get it now.
Thought it was &#039;deeper&#039; than it actually was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nmsindy @10 and scchua @11, thanks, I get it now.<br />
Thought it was &#8216;deeper&#8217; than it actually was.</p>
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		<title>By: scchua</title>
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		<dc:creator>scchua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 03:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re 12A MAILER, I think &quot;same&quot; in the clue refers to a mailer, as in a publicity letter one receives in the post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 12A MAILER, I think &#8220;same&#8221; in the clue refers to a mailer, as in a publicity letter one receives in the post.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sending same&quot; in the MAILER clue means, I think, someone posting or mailing, ie sending letters in the post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sending same&#8221; in the MAILER clue means, I think, someone posting or mailing, ie sending letters in the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good puzzle, with some unusual things.

For example, in 2d IMPEACH is given as &quot;everyone having wicked spirit&quot;. Normally IMP would follow EACH - not here [&#039;having&#039; apparently meaning &#039;having it on top&#039;].

And in UNORIGINAL (26ac) the use of &#039;(Not tackle on United&#039;s) right&#039; is quite misleading/misdirecting [whatever you like]. It must mean here &quot;U+NO RIG hás on the right hand side ...&quot;. As &#039;right&#039; is normally not a very neutral word in a clue, I found it on the edge.

Just as others, I got ARISTO without too many problems, though not having heard of Ariosto. I was intially thinking of [d]ANTE (a)round TO - which of course leads to nothing sensible. Yet that little word &#039;to&#039; in the clue was not something I was very keen on today - what does it mean? &#039;Leading to the answer&#039;?

And BB for King? Well, I think it&#039;s fine, but I know people who would surely dislike it.
I am probably not literate enough, but I still don&#039;t get the MAILER clue. I see &#039;Man of letters&#039;, but can&#039;t parse the second part.

As others, I think Tees made a mistake in 27ac (LIKE).

Still, despite all this, the imagery of the crossword [like the great surface in 8d&#039;s EARNING] comes to its rescue.
Tough puzzle, but very enjoyable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good puzzle, with some unusual things.</p>
<p>For example, in 2d IMPEACH is given as &#8220;everyone having wicked spirit&#8221;. Normally IMP would follow EACH &#8211; not here ['having' apparently meaning 'having it on top'].</p>
<p>And in UNORIGINAL (26ac) the use of &#8216;(Not tackle on United&#8217;s) right&#8217; is quite misleading/misdirecting [whatever you like]. It must mean here &#8220;U+NO RIG hás on the right hand side &#8230;&#8221;. As &#8216;right&#8217; is normally not a very neutral word in a clue, I found it on the edge.</p>
<p>Just as others, I got ARISTO without too many problems, though not having heard of Ariosto. I was intially thinking of [d]ANTE (a)round TO &#8211; which of course leads to nothing sensible. Yet that little word &#8216;to&#8217; in the clue was not something I was very keen on today &#8211; what does it mean? &#8216;Leading to the answer&#8217;?</p>
<p>And BB for King? Well, I think it&#8217;s fine, but I know people who would surely dislike it.<br />
I am probably not literate enough, but I still don&#8217;t get the MAILER clue. I see &#8216;Man of letters&#8217;, but can&#8217;t parse the second part.</p>
<p>As others, I think Tees made a mistake in 27ac (LIKE).</p>
<p>Still, despite all this, the imagery of the crossword [like the great surface in 8d's EARNING] comes to its rescue.<br />
Tough puzzle, but very enjoyable.</p>
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		<title>By: flashling</title>
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		<dc:creator>flashling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wot no Tees comment? So what next will they try on us for King, Carole, Don? Flashling is in a world of pain after putting back out doing firework displays over the weekend. Must agree with Lenny over LIKE it does seem the wrong way round.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wot no Tees comment? So what next will they try on us for King, Carole, Don? Flashling is in a world of pain after putting back out doing firework displays over the weekend. Must agree with Lenny over LIKE it does seem the wrong way round.</p>
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