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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/11/12/independent-7512-by-phi/#comment-129098</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 08:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very enjoyable, and the Nina helped a lot - many thanks, Phi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very enjoyable, and the Nina helped a lot &#8211; many thanks, Phi.</p>
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		<title>By: Quixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 06:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny! I found this only a shade harder than any other Phi puzzle. The hard vocabulary (some unknown to me) was clued accurately and fairly, as I would expect. The Nina passed me by completely!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny! I found this only a shade harder than any other Phi puzzle. The hard vocabulary (some unknown to me) was clued accurately and fairly, as I would expect. The Nina passed me by completely!</p>
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		<title>By: scarpia</title>
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		<dc:creator>scarpia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Simon.
Very enjoyable puzzle from Phi - I like &quot;obscurities&quot; in a puzzle.
pennes @ 19. An en is half an em  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/en]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Simon.<br />
Very enjoyable puzzle from Phi &#8211; I like &#8220;obscurities&#8221; in a puzzle.<br />
pennes @ 19. An en is half an em  <a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/en" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/en</a></p>
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		<title>By: flashling</title>
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		<dc:creator>flashling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ems and ens are the size of the letter in prining parlance so refers to the width of the letter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ems and ens are the size of the letter in prining parlance so refers to the width of the letter.</p>
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		<title>By: pennes</title>
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		<dc:creator>pennes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In view of difficulty noted in posts I was pleased to get as far as only 6 clues left.
 Still not sure about strapping (23 ac) which I have only heard in the context of a person&#039;s build: large and tall. 
Also what  is the &quot;printing unit&quot; (shortened to &quot;en&quot;) in 19 ac?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In view of difficulty noted in posts I was pleased to get as far as only 6 clues left.<br />
 Still not sure about strapping (23 ac) which I have only heard in the context of a person&#8217;s build: large and tall.<br />
Also what  is the &#8220;printing unit&#8221; (shortened to &#8220;en&#8221;) in 19 ac?</p>
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		<title>By: Phi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Nina this time was a bit of a tease, and I should apologise, I guess!  I put in most of the alphabet and noted that the omitted few were some of the trickiest, and just thought &#039;Let &#039;em worry&#039;.  (I could make some sort of complicated assertion that gaming your expectations in this way is also part of the trickery, but I won&#039;t.)

BREWSKI I have come across a number of times in my reading (US literature, I think).  OROPESA is a word I first encountered in crossword magazines where it came in terribly useful for those definition-only puzzles that combine blocks and substantial checking.  But EBRIETY was a bit naughty (though it fascinated me because somehow you feel it shouldn&#039;t mean the same as INEBRIETY - on which point I&#039;d direct you to Chambers definition of EMBOGUE). Ursula Le Guin is something of a classic in her genres (the Earthsea trilogy is the usual item mentioned), and I guess it goes to reinforce my view that popular culture, being increasingly fragmented, isn&#039;t actually quite as popular as people think it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nina this time was a bit of a tease, and I should apologise, I guess!  I put in most of the alphabet and noted that the omitted few were some of the trickiest, and just thought &#8216;Let &#8216;em worry&#8217;.  (I could make some sort of complicated assertion that gaming your expectations in this way is also part of the trickery, but I won&#8217;t.)</p>
<p>BREWSKI I have come across a number of times in my reading (US literature, I think).  OROPESA is a word I first encountered in crossword magazines where it came in terribly useful for those definition-only puzzles that combine blocks and substantial checking.  But EBRIETY was a bit naughty (though it fascinated me because somehow you feel it shouldn&#8217;t mean the same as INEBRIETY &#8211; on which point I&#8217;d direct you to Chambers definition of EMBOGUE). Ursula Le Guin is something of a classic in her genres (the Earthsea trilogy is the usual item mentioned), and I guess it goes to reinforce my view that popular culture, being increasingly fragmented, isn&#8217;t actually quite as popular as people think it is.</p>
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		<title>By: beermagnet</title>
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		<dc:creator>beermagnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ursula K Le Guin&#039;s work is certainly Science Fiction - at least enough for the people who hand out the Hugo Awards and similar - and by the same token - not obscure.  
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_K._Le_Guin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Wiki &lt;/a&gt;
Her childrens&#039; stories (Earthsea) are more fantasy, but the main novels typically explore political and psychological themes, while being set among alien peoples on alien worlds.
I put her in the same category and esteem as Margaret Atwood, Doris Lessing and Iain M Banks.
I would particularly recommend /Left Hand of Darkness/ and /The Dispossessed/

11A was one of the first I got - well I would wouldn&#039;t I.

Didn&#039;t finish it - despite spotting the alpha-Nina which helped me along a bit, it was just too hard for a Friday lunchtime.

Don&#039;t think it&#039;s a pangram - no J (at least).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ursula K Le Guin&#8217;s work is certainly Science Fiction &#8211; at least enough for the people who hand out the Hugo Awards and similar &#8211; and by the same token &#8211; not obscure.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_K._Le_Guin" rel="nofollow"> Wiki </a><br />
Her childrens&#8217; stories (Earthsea) are more fantasy, but the main novels typically explore political and psychological themes, while being set among alien peoples on alien worlds.<br />
I put her in the same category and esteem as Margaret Atwood, Doris Lessing and Iain M Banks.<br />
I would particularly recommend /Left Hand of Darkness/ and /The Dispossessed/</p>
<p>11A was one of the first I got &#8211; well I would wouldn&#8217;t I.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t finish it &#8211; despite spotting the alpha-Nina which helped me along a bit, it was just too hard for a Friday lunchtime.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a pangram &#8211; no J (at least).</p>
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		<title>By: Gaufrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaufrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainish_Cycle]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS<br />
See also: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainish_Cycle" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainish_Cycle</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gaufrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaufrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simon &amp; K&#039;s D
Extract from Wikipedia (my emphasis):

&quot;Ursula Kroeber Le Guin (pronounced /??rs?l? ?kro?b?r l???w?n/; born October 21, 1929) is an American author. She has written novels, poetry, children&#039;s books, essays, and short stories, most notably in the genres of fantasy and &lt;b&gt;science fiction&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon &#038; K&#8217;s D<br />
Extract from Wikipedia (my emphasis):</p>
<p>&#8220;Ursula Kroeber Le Guin (pronounced /??rs?l? ?kro?b?r l???w?n/; born October 21, 1929) is an American author. She has written novels, poetry, children&#8217;s books, essays, and short stories, most notably in the genres of fantasy and <b>science fiction</b>.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I guess we&#039;re going with Ursula at 11ac?  In which case I&#039;ll add this to my list of obscurities.

Normally (actually, always) Phi is very precise with his clueing and, consequently, his ninas when he decides to tease us with them. So I can&#039;t really see what we&#039;re missing here - if you&#039;re going to do the alphabet thing, then what&#039;s happened to the missing letters?

Anyway, the weekend beckons, so a good one to all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I guess we&#8217;re going with Ursula at 11ac?  In which case I&#8217;ll add this to my list of obscurities.</p>
<p>Normally (actually, always) Phi is very precise with his clueing and, consequently, his ninas when he decides to tease us with them. So I can&#8217;t really see what we&#8217;re missing here &#8211; if you&#8217;re going to do the alphabet thing, then what&#8217;s happened to the missing letters?</p>
<p>Anyway, the weekend beckons, so a good one to all.</p>
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