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	<title>Comments on: Independent 7523 by Nimrod</title>
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	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
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		<title>By: Colin Blackburn</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/11/25/independent-7523-by-nimrod-2/#comment-131662</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Blackburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very enjoyable though I missed out on WILD. I also missed several bits of wordplay so thanks to everyone here.

I initially imagined 12 of the current England squad going in there but thought that would be near impossible. Then I got GADWALL and the penny dropped. Being a bit of a birder (but nearer to dude than twitcher) I immediately pencilled in several theme words. I too thought that it should have been SHOVELER though the double-ell spelling is justified by Chambers but not by many birding sources.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very enjoyable though I missed out on WILD. I also missed several bits of wordplay so thanks to everyone here.</p>
<p>I initially imagined 12 of the current England squad going in there but thought that would be near impossible. Then I got GADWALL and the penny dropped. Being a bit of a birder (but nearer to dude than twitcher) I immediately pencilled in several theme words. I too thought that it should have been SHOVELER though the double-ell spelling is justified by Chambers but not by many birding sources.</p>
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		<title>By: flashling</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/11/25/independent-7523-by-nimrod-2/#comment-131487</link>
		<dc:creator>flashling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 22:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Ian and Anax, who certainly isn&#039;t An Ass for the bits I couldn&#039;t get especially Mallard which I spent over 30 minutes thinking how the hell does this work. Nestor then Nimrod in succession, quite a treat for a gentle midweek blog although I did ask for a swap(thanks John btw). Suppose it means I get Bann man on tuesday...

NealH shared your reservations about both of those too.

Come on England let&#039;s give the baggies Nimrod&#039;s gifts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Ian and Anax, who certainly isn&#8217;t An Ass for the bits I couldn&#8217;t get especially Mallard which I spent over 30 minutes thinking how the hell does this work. Nestor then Nimrod in succession, quite a treat for a gentle midweek blog although I did ask for a swap(thanks John btw). Suppose it means I get Bann man on tuesday&#8230;</p>
<p>NealH shared your reservations about both of those too.</p>
<p>Come on England let&#8217;s give the baggies Nimrod&#8217;s gifts.</p>
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		<title>By: NealH</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/11/25/independent-7523-by-nimrod-2/#comment-131435</link>
		<dc:creator>NealH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it should have been dedicated to Andrew Strauss!

I got there in the end with this, despite the fact that all the ducks I could think of (ruddy, merganser, eider) weren&#039;t there and quite a few of those that were there I&#039;d never heard of.  I didn&#039;t follow cockatoo, mallard or tetchy, so thanks for the explanations.  As usual with Nimrod, there was a huge amount of misdirection going on.  I think 13 across has to win the award today - a simple hidden that was made up to look much more cryptic by the addition of the rather unnecessary &quot;to be first&quot;.  I thought wild duck was pushing the theme a bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it should have been dedicated to Andrew Strauss!</p>
<p>I got there in the end with this, despite the fact that all the ducks I could think of (ruddy, merganser, eider) weren&#8217;t there and quite a few of those that were there I&#8217;d never heard of.  I didn&#8217;t follow cockatoo, mallard or tetchy, so thanks for the explanations.  As usual with Nimrod, there was a huge amount of misdirection going on.  I think 13 across has to win the award today &#8211; a simple hidden that was made up to look much more cryptic by the addition of the rather unnecessary &#8220;to be first&#8221;.  I thought wild duck was pushing the theme a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Stella</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/11/25/independent-7523-by-nimrod-2/#comment-131364</link>
		<dc:creator>Stella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is no-one blogging Paul today? For some reason I can&#039;t access the calendar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is no-one blogging Paul today? For some reason I can&#8217;t access the calendar.</p>
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		<title>By: Stella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having found no coincidences with the Australian Ashes team - which, not living in England, I had to Google - I decided to look for what relates Muscovy and Gadwall, and suddenly realised the cheekiness of the dedication :)

Thanks Nimrod and flashling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having found no coincidences with the Australian Ashes team &#8211; which, not living in England, I had to Google &#8211; I decided to look for what relates Muscovy and Gadwall, and suddenly realised the cheekiness of the dedication <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks Nimrod and flashling.</p>
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		<title>By: scchua</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/11/25/independent-7523-by-nimrod-2/#comment-131339</link>
		<dc:creator>scchua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks flashling for the blog, and Nimrod for another hard one I couldn&#039;t complete, but burnt a few synapses trying.

First reaction this morning was Nimrod! groan, cricket! another groan. But the answers weren&#039;t really about cricket, were they? Hats off for perhaps the biggest crossword misdirection I&#039;ve been subject to. This is Nimrod after all, which fact should have alerted me that it was s tongue-in-cheek &quot;dedication&quot;.  

After getting all the non-&quot;One&quot;s, and MANDARIN, HARLEQUIN and TEAL (you&#039;d be surprised that these three have a non-duck cricketing connection of some sort or another), I was stuck until I had a peek at this blog&#039;s preamble. Finally got all but two ducks.

Great mental workout!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks flashling for the blog, and Nimrod for another hard one I couldn&#8217;t complete, but burnt a few synapses trying.</p>
<p>First reaction this morning was Nimrod! groan, cricket! another groan. But the answers weren&#8217;t really about cricket, were they? Hats off for perhaps the biggest crossword misdirection I&#8217;ve been subject to. This is Nimrod after all, which fact should have alerted me that it was s tongue-in-cheek &#8220;dedication&#8221;.  </p>
<p>After getting all the non-&#8221;One&#8221;s, and MANDARIN, HARLEQUIN and TEAL (you&#8217;d be surprised that these three have a non-duck cricketing connection of some sort or another), I was stuck until I had a peek at this blog&#8217;s preamble. Finally got all but two ducks.</p>
<p>Great mental workout!</p>
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		<title>By: crypticsue</title>
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		<dc:creator>crypticsue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry I don&#039;t mean 23a I mean 16d.  Going cross-eyed in my old age]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I don&#8217;t mean 23a I mean 16d.  Going cross-eyed in my old age</p>
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		<title>By: crypticsue</title>
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		<dc:creator>crypticsue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice to know people (well Nimrod) was listening at a recent bloggers and setters gathering when I bemoaned the fact that you never see 23a in a crossword anymore.    In the 1970s it was never out of the DT Cryptic.   Excellent crossword, really enjoyed the theme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to know people (well Nimrod) was listening at a recent bloggers and setters gathering when I bemoaned the fact that you never see 23a in a crossword anymore.    In the 1970s it was never out of the DT Cryptic.   Excellent crossword, really enjoyed the theme.</p>
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		<title>By: anax</title>
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		<dc:creator>anax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Incidentally, re Anas. No relation I&#039;m afraid - one S short.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, re Anas. No relation I&#8217;m afraid &#8211; one S short.</p>
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		<title>By: anax</title>
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		<dc:creator>anax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi there K&#039;sD.

I meant to add that unders &#039;Ducks&#039; in &lt;i&gt;Chambers Crossword Lists&lt;/i&gt; there&#039;s only the SHOVELLER spelling. On further reading, though, the dictionary almost appears to tie itself in knots a little:

&lt;b&gt;Shoveller&lt;/b&gt; or (US) &lt;b&gt;shoveler&lt;/b&gt; n. someone who shovels; a dabbling duck ... with ... spadelike bill (&lt;i&gt;usu&lt;/i&gt; &lt;b&gt;shoveler&lt;/b&gt;)

Well, it&#039;s got me confused!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there K&#8217;sD.</p>
<p>I meant to add that unders &#8216;Ducks&#8217; in <i>Chambers Crossword Lists</i> there&#8217;s only the SHOVELLER spelling. On further reading, though, the dictionary almost appears to tie itself in knots a little:</p>
<p><b>Shoveller</b> or (US) <b>shoveler</b> n. someone who shovels; a dabbling duck &#8230; with &#8230; spadelike bill (<i>usu</i> <b>shoveler</b>)</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s got me confused!</p>
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