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	<title>Comments on: Independent 7525 (Saturday Prize Puzzle 27 November 2010) by Bannsider</title>
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		<title>By: Gaufrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaufrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi reddevil
Congratulations! I should be able to send you a copy of the puzzle. Just give me half an hour or so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi reddevil<br />
Congratulations! I should be able to send you a copy of the puzzle. Just give me half an hour or so.</p>
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		<title>By: redddevil</title>
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		<dc:creator>redddevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apologies for resurrecting this thread but I have just had the most pleasant experience of the receipt of an Oxford Dictionary and Thesaurus for having been drawn out of the hat as &#039;winner&#039; for this crossword. Given that barely 6 months ago I was telling my better half not to bother buying the Indie if the crossword was by Bannsider &quot;because they were too hard&quot; it shows how far I&#039;ve come with the help of the blogs and comments on this site.
So thanks to all the bloggers here and maybe you could tell me if there is somewhere whence I could retrieve the original puzzle itself as it has been &#039;tidied&#039; here and I&#039;d like to have a copy of it as a reminder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for resurrecting this thread but I have just had the most pleasant experience of the receipt of an Oxford Dictionary and Thesaurus for having been drawn out of the hat as &#8216;winner&#8217; for this crossword. Given that barely 6 months ago I was telling my better half not to bother buying the Indie if the crossword was by Bannsider &#8220;because they were too hard&#8221; it shows how far I&#8217;ve come with the help of the blogs and comments on this site.<br />
So thanks to all the bloggers here and maybe you could tell me if there is somewhere whence I could retrieve the original puzzle itself as it has been &#8216;tidied&#8217; here and I&#8217;d like to have a copy of it as a reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this v hard, v inventive and original - favourite clues  HOLD ONE&#039;S OWN, OPT, OCTAGONAL, LOBBY (best of all), THE OLD BAILEY,
Thanks, Bannsider, for the puzzle and Duncan for the excellent blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this v hard, v inventive and original &#8211; favourite clues  HOLD ONE&#8217;S OWN, OPT, OCTAGONAL, LOBBY (best of all), THE OLD BAILEY,<br />
Thanks, Bannsider, for the puzzle and Duncan for the excellent blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Bannsider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bannsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Duncan for an amazing blog. These blogs enrich the experience for solvers and setters alike.
I don&#039;t have the puzzle in front of me, but the clue for 1 across should have read &quot;...good bye&quot; or &quot;good-bye&quot; indicating that two separate abbreviations were called for, for &quot;good&quot; and &quot;bye&quot;. Also, in the DESPAIR clue, &quot;for one&quot; indicated &quot;for example&quot; as pants are an example of a PAIR of something, but I guess it could read equally validly the other way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Duncan for an amazing blog. These blogs enrich the experience for solvers and setters alike.<br />
I don&#8217;t have the puzzle in front of me, but the clue for 1 across should have read &#8220;&#8230;good bye&#8221; or &#8220;good-bye&#8221; indicating that two separate abbreviations were called for, for &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;bye&#8221;. Also, in the DESPAIR clue, &#8220;for one&#8221; indicated &#8220;for example&#8221; as pants are an example of a PAIR of something, but I guess it could read equally validly the other way.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 10:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Duncan, for the explanations.  There were several entries which I got because they couldn&#039;t be anything else  but didn&#039;t completely understand; BREMNER and WAXWING aforementioned, also TOASTING FORK. 
I wasn&#039;t all that happy with GB as an abbreviation for &quot;goodbye&quot;, either - though I recall a feeble schoolboy-type joke many years ago: What does GB on the back of a car mean? - Goodbye!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Duncan, for the explanations.  There were several entries which I got because they couldn&#8217;t be anything else  but didn&#8217;t completely understand; BREMNER and WAXWING aforementioned, also TOASTING FORK.<br />
I wasn&#8217;t all that happy with GB as an abbreviation for &#8220;goodbye&#8221;, either &#8211; though I recall a feeble schoolboy-type joke many years ago: What does GB on the back of a car mean? &#8211; Goodbye!</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Shiell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan Shiell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[anax

It was only whilst writing the blog that I realised that &lt;b&gt;CLOSE-KNIT&lt;/b&gt; had the wordplay described.

scchua

The full wordplay from &lt;b&gt;BREMNER&lt;/b&gt; also came late to me.

Thanks for the comment on 18 down.  I was vaguely aware that &#039;Brazilian&#039; had a another meaning.  My wife tells me that I have led too sheltered a life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anax</p>
<p>It was only whilst writing the blog that I realised that <b>CLOSE-KNIT</b> had the wordplay described.</p>
<p>scchua</p>
<p>The full wordplay from <b>BREMNER</b> also came late to me.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment on 18 down.  I was vaguely aware that &#8216;Brazilian&#8217; had a another meaning.  My wife tells me that I have led too sheltered a life.</p>
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		<title>By: scchua</title>
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		<dc:creator>scchua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 08:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Duncan for the blog, and thanks to Bannsider for an enjoyable puzzle.  As mentioned many clues which were a pleasure to parse.

Missed out on one, 3D BREMNER, for some reason, I applied the &quot;What ends&quot; indicator to only &quot;hubbub&quot; and didn&#039;t continue from then on.

Personal favourites were 23A IRAN-IRAQ WAR, 4D THE OLD BAILEY, and 14D SCOOBY-DOO.

By the way re 18D WAXWING, I felt that &quot;giving, say, Brazilian&quot; pointed rather more to &quot;waxing&quot; than &quot;wax&quot;, and you might be (or not) be familiar with &quot;Brazilian waxing&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Duncan for the blog, and thanks to Bannsider for an enjoyable puzzle.  As mentioned many clues which were a pleasure to parse.</p>
<p>Missed out on one, 3D BREMNER, for some reason, I applied the &#8220;What ends&#8221; indicator to only &#8220;hubbub&#8221; and didn&#8217;t continue from then on.</p>
<p>Personal favourites were 23A IRAN-IRAQ WAR, 4D THE OLD BAILEY, and 14D SCOOBY-DOO.</p>
<p>By the way re 18D WAXWING, I felt that &#8220;giving, say, Brazilian&#8221; pointed rather more to &#8220;waxing&#8221; than &#8220;wax&#8221;, and you might be (or not) be familiar with &#8220;Brazilian waxing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: anax</title>
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		<dc:creator>anax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As ever, Duncan, a stunning piece of comprehensive bloggery - there really should be some sort of award for efforts like this (like, er, comments?).

And, as ever, a testing and utterly satisfying crossword from one in the upper stratosphere of setters. IRAN-IRAQ WAR is just the sort of seemingly impossible-to-clue entries Bannsider relishes; and how smoothly he&#039;s pulled it off!

I&#039;m very grateful for your explanation of 6d because until now I thought it was an unusually characterless clue. Turns out it was another example of brilliantly concealed wordplay and I&#039;m annoyed with myself for missing it.

Marvellous puzzle, marvellous blog - thanks both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As ever, Duncan, a stunning piece of comprehensive bloggery &#8211; there really should be some sort of award for efforts like this (like, er, comments?).</p>
<p>And, as ever, a testing and utterly satisfying crossword from one in the upper stratosphere of setters. IRAN-IRAQ WAR is just the sort of seemingly impossible-to-clue entries Bannsider relishes; and how smoothly he&#8217;s pulled it off!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very grateful for your explanation of 6d because until now I thought it was an unusually characterless clue. Turns out it was another example of brilliantly concealed wordplay and I&#8217;m annoyed with myself for missing it.</p>
<p>Marvellous puzzle, marvellous blog &#8211; thanks both.</p>
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