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	<title>Comments on: Guardian Cryptic No 25,186 by Rufus</title>
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		<title>By: morpheus</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2010/12/06/guardian-cryptic-no-25186-by-rufus/#comment-134480</link>
		<dc:creator>morpheus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[at last, what this blog has been missing for some time - some good balanced political opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at last, what this blog has been missing for some time &#8211; some good balanced political opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: stiofain</title>
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		<dc:creator>stiofain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A nice lite rufus though i agree EXPIRED is barely cryptic I did like SECOND HELPING.I remember slack as being put on top of the fire to make it smoulder and burn slower to save coal rather than being used for a quick fire.
N Williams @19 are you kidding? The Orange Order are as extreme as religious groupings get, responsible for murders, intimidation on a countrywide scale and civil unrest costing millions. They are the only identifiable legal grouping that have had no input into the peace process in Ireland. They were formed to persecute a large part of the population and did so very successfully for many years. I suppose the Klu Klux Klan are just good ol&#039; country boys and the Taliban cuddly little beardy gnomes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice lite rufus though i agree EXPIRED is barely cryptic I did like SECOND HELPING.I remember slack as being put on top of the fire to make it smoulder and burn slower to save coal rather than being used for a quick fire.<br />
N Williams @19 are you kidding? The Orange Order are as extreme as religious groupings get, responsible for murders, intimidation on a countrywide scale and civil unrest costing millions. They are the only identifiable legal grouping that have had no input into the peace process in Ireland. They were formed to persecute a large part of the population and did so very successfully for many years. I suppose the Klu Klux Klan are just good ol&#8217; country boys and the Taliban cuddly little beardy gnomes?</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 19:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks PeterO. Was beginning to wonder if term had finished early with all these pupils/students/scholar(&#039;)s about ! 
A first glance at 17 said &lt;i&gt;lignite&lt;/i&gt; to me, then I thought again ... oh dear. Good to see tupu making one &#039;L of an appearance, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks PeterO. Was beginning to wonder if term had finished early with all these pupils/students/scholar(&#8216;)s about !<br />
A first glance at 17 said <i>lignite</i> to me, then I thought again &#8230; oh dear. Good to see tupu making one &#8216;L of an appearance, though.</p>
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		<title>By: N. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>N. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The clue to 13 across was irritating. Orangemen are not necessarily extremists by any means. Surely judgements of this kind are better kept out of crossword clues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The clue to 13 across was irritating. Orangemen are not necessarily extremists by any means. Surely judgements of this kind are better kept out of crossword clues.</p>
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		<title>By: john h</title>
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		<dc:creator>john h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George - you would normally need eight score draws to do much in the pools so it is unlikely that nun would be telling the pope where to shove his job. I got seven score draws once and won £1.42 which was not quite  enough to retire on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George &#8211; you would normally need eight score draws to do much in the pools so it is unlikely that nun would be telling the pope where to shove his job. I got seven score draws once and won £1.42 which was not quite  enough to retire on.</p>
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		<title>By: George Heard</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Heard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[20 reminded me of an old joke.

Q.  What&#039;s black and white and tells the Pope to f**k off?

A.  A nun with six score draws.

I thought this was a bit more restrained of a Rufus with the usual set of nice surfaces but not as many cryptic definitions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20 reminded me of an old joke.</p>
<p>Q.  What&#8217;s black and white and tells the Pope to f**k off?</p>
<p>A.  A nun with six score draws.</p>
<p>I thought this was a bit more restrained of a Rufus with the usual set of nice surfaces but not as many cryptic definitions.</p>
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		<title>By: Robi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks,PeterO and Rufus. 8d seemed to be weak but I took it as a dd with reference to expired meaning dead, and thus out of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks,PeterO and Rufus. 8d seemed to be weak but I took it as a dd with reference to expired meaning dead, and thus out of time.</p>
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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tupu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re &#039;slack&#039;. My recollection is that (as a mixture of dust and smaller lumps) it burned more quickly than larger coal lumps, so that one might &#039;put a bit of slack on the fire&#039; to get a quick blaze.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8216;slack&#8217;. My recollection is that (as a mixture of dust and smaller lumps) it burned more quickly than larger coal lumps, so that one might &#8216;put a bit of slack on the fire&#8217; to get a quick blaze.</p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog, PeterO. Nothing much to add to the above. An enjoyable Rufus -- I liked the surface of 1ac and others. Didn&#039;t think 8dn was crytic, though. I&#039;ve never heard of &#039;slack&#039; for &#039;coal&#039;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog, PeterO. Nothing much to add to the above. An enjoyable Rufus &#8212; I liked the surface of 1ac and others. Didn&#8217;t think 8dn was crytic, though. I&#8217;ve never heard of &#8216;slack&#8217; for &#8216;coal&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To avoid confusion: I am not PeterO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To avoid confusion: I am not PeterO.</p>
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