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		<title>By: Mark Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 1dn, I parsed it c = constant term, woman = Callida]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 1dn, I parsed it c = constant term, woman = Callida</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Welsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My quibble of the day was with 21a.  I have not come across &quot;a&quot; for &quot;about&quot; before.  Usually &quot;c&quot; or &quot;re&quot;.

I did not quite finish, having problem with top left.  (Would you believe I am a car nut living in the US but could not come up with Cadillac?)   I was almost convinced that 12a was Osly -- L (start of lean) inside OS(large) Y(ard) -- which is a river (&quot;flower&quot;) in Catalunya according to a Spanish language site I found!  But then the clue would have been &quot;start&quot; rather than &quot;starts&quot;, so I did not put it in.  No excuse really.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My quibble of the day was with 21a.  I have not come across &#8220;a&#8221; for &#8220;about&#8221; before.  Usually &#8220;c&#8221; or &#8220;re&#8221;.</p>
<p>I did not quite finish, having problem with top left.  (Would you believe I am a car nut living in the US but could not come up with Cadillac?)   I was almost convinced that 12a was Osly &#8212; L (start of lean) inside OS(large) Y(ard) &#8212; which is a river (&#8220;flower&#8221;) in Catalunya according to a Spanish language site I found!  But then the clue would have been &#8220;start&#8221; rather than &#8220;starts&#8221;, so I did not put it in.  No excuse really.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re probably right there (15a), Gaufrid, but I think the phrase &#039;sumo wrestler&#039; is pretty common and I&#039;d say that would justify it all right. Pleasing puzzle, favourite clues BRIE, RED CARD, FOIL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re probably right there (15a), Gaufrid, but I think the phrase &#8216;sumo wrestler&#8217; is pretty common and I&#8217;d say that would justify it all right. Pleasing puzzle, favourite clues BRIE, RED CARD, FOIL.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaufrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaufrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi again Ramasamy
I take your point regarding 4ac. Initially I tried to think of a synonym of &#039;forge&#039; that was 8 letters long so there was some misdirection in the clue but I was convinced that HO[r]DES had to be part of the answer and I&#039;m (un?)fortunate to be old enough to remember the UDI.

With regard to 15ac, I should perhaps have expressed a qualm about this one as well. SUMO is a type of wrestling, the wrestler is a &#039;sumotori&#039; so I suppose the answer should really be ANIROTOMUS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Ramasamy<br />
I take your point regarding 4ac. Initially I tried to think of a synonym of &#8216;forge&#8217; that was 8 letters long so there was some misdirection in the clue but I was convinced that HO[r]DES had to be part of the answer and I&#8217;m (un?)fortunate to be old enough to remember the UDI.</p>
<p>With regard to 15ac, I should perhaps have expressed a qualm about this one as well. SUMO is a type of wrestling, the wrestler is a &#8216;sumotori&#8217; so I suppose the answer should really be ANIROTOMUS.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaufrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaufrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ramasamy
For me, &#039;wear&#039; and &#039;corrode&#039; both indicate that something is being reduced in size or thickness rather than being mixed up or broken up and reassembled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ramasamy<br />
For me, &#8216;wear&#8217; and &#8216;corrode&#8217; both indicate that something is being reduced in size or thickness rather than being mixed up or broken up and reassembled.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramasamy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramasamy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a quibble and a doubt. There is no indication in 4A for being a definition with an example. Quite a number of nations would have had a &#039;Smith&#039; at the helm. 

The doubt is whether there should be any special indicator in the clue when using an example to define a part of the word. For example, in 15A, the usage of &#039;wrestler&#039; for &#039;SUMO&#039;. If the answer is no, will the setter be justified in using &#039;sleep&#039; for &#039;REM&#039;, given the existence of a &#039;REM sleep&#039; in the Chambers?

Will greatly appreciate clarification :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a quibble and a doubt. There is no indication in 4A for being a definition with an example. Quite a number of nations would have had a &#8216;Smith&#8217; at the helm. </p>
<p>The doubt is whether there should be any special indicator in the clue when using an example to define a part of the word. For example, in 15A, the usage of &#8216;wrestler&#8217; for &#8216;SUMO&#8217;. If the answer is no, will the setter be justified in using &#8216;sleep&#8217; for &#8216;REM&#8217;, given the existence of a &#8216;REM sleep&#8217; in the Chambers?</p>
<p>Will greatly appreciate clarification <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ramasamy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramasamy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Gaufrid

Reg 29A, I see no problem. We frequently come across &#039;wear&#039; as an anagram indicator, to mean &#039;corrode&#039; in the cryptic reading. Please confirm if that is what you had meant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gaufrid</p>
<p>Reg 29A, I see no problem. We frequently come across &#8216;wear&#8217; as an anagram indicator, to mean &#8216;corrode&#8217; in the cryptic reading. Please confirm if that is what you had meant.</p>
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		<title>By: bamberger</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am convinced that the setter composed the lhs and rhs at different times when in different moods. I more or less wrote in the rhs but only got 1a, 12a, 20a &amp; 14d from the lhs. That said , I should have got 30a. Just stared blankly at the ones I couldn&#039;t get with no idea of what was wanted.
Thanks for the blog-as usual makes it all clear though 25d is a bit tricky is you haven&#039;t heard of doge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am convinced that the setter composed the lhs and rhs at different times when in different moods. I more or less wrote in the rhs but only got 1a, 12a, 20a &amp; 14d from the lhs. That said , I should have got 30a. Just stared blankly at the ones I couldn&#8217;t get with no idea of what was wanted.<br />
Thanks for the blog-as usual makes it all clear though 25d is a bit tricky is you haven&#8217;t heard of doge.</p>
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