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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 25,197 (Christmas Jumbo, Sat 18 Dec)/Araucaria &#8211; Moonlight departure</title>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cheers Rightback. I will miss your posts for their detail and humour. The wit was often self-deprecating, but I don&#039;t think you had much to be self-deprecating about.

Good luck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Rightback. I will miss your posts for their detail and humour. The wit was often self-deprecating, but I don&#8217;t think you had much to be self-deprecating about.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: PLL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PLL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re the thematic connections, there seems to be a minor theme of canines (WOOLF, DOG-FOX, DINGO), whimsically linked to the theology via DOG/GOD wordplay?  DINGO is also vaguely but elegantly echoed by INGOT.

Re Davy’s comment, am slightly surprised that the Rev. didn’t keep it clean with an ornithological clue instead of &lt;i&gt;petto&lt;/i&gt;, since he tends to be one for the birds.  That was a new word to me, though, so I’m not complaining!

Thanks muchly, rightback, from a frequent reader but rare commenter.  The replacement will have a high standard to match!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the thematic connections, there seems to be a minor theme of canines (WOOLF, DOG-FOX, DINGO), whimsically linked to the theology via DOG/GOD wordplay?  DINGO is also vaguely but elegantly echoed by INGOT.</p>
<p>Re Davy’s comment, am slightly surprised that the Rev. didn’t keep it clean with an ornithological clue instead of <i>petto</i>, since he tends to be one for the birds.  That was a new word to me, though, so I’m not complaining!</p>
<p>Thanks muchly, rightback, from a frequent reader but rare commenter.  The replacement will have a high standard to match!</p>
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		<title>By: Robi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 17:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Belated thanks to rightback. 

I eventually solved this, albeit with a lot of steam coming out of my computer. Pandarus took some finding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belated thanks to rightback. </p>
<p>I eventually solved this, albeit with a lot of steam coming out of my computer. Pandarus took some finding.</p>
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		<title>By: molonglo</title>
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		<dc:creator>molonglo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 23:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks rightback, the hare chased for years by us unfitter hounds - I always enjoyed your blogs and wish you success with the TCC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks rightback, the hare chased for years by us unfitter hounds &#8211; I always enjoyed your blogs and wish you success with the TCC.</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 20:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks rightback and good luck for the future,

I finally finished this after ignoring it completely for over a week. On the day of publication, I only got two clues and thought that it was beyond me and so cast it aside. I think it was Daniel Miller who described it as doable and so I had a second attempt at it. Surprisingly it wasn&#039;t half as difficult as I had previously thought and slowly (ever so slowly) I started to make inroads. What a marvellous puzzle it turned out to be and to finish it was a great achievement for me.

I&#039;m surprised that no-one has mentioned Arry&#039;s use of the word tit (petto) in the clue for TRAIT and this from a man of the cloth. I do hope that Ian W wasn&#039;t doing this puzzle with his young daughter as he would be outraged.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks rightback and good luck for the future,</p>
<p>I finally finished this after ignoring it completely for over a week. On the day of publication, I only got two clues and thought that it was beyond me and so cast it aside. I think it was Daniel Miller who described it as doable and so I had a second attempt at it. Surprisingly it wasn&#8217;t half as difficult as I had previously thought and slowly (ever so slowly) I started to make inroads. What a marvellous puzzle it turned out to be and to finish it was a great achievement for me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that no-one has mentioned Arry&#8217;s use of the word tit (petto) in the clue for TRAIT and this from a man of the cloth. I do hope that Ian W wasn&#8217;t doing this puzzle with his young daughter as he would be outraged.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrots</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 18:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Auntie E you have given me quite a TURN! Charles The Hundredth ?!?! One is more than enough, thank you!

Whilst Googling to find out what number our future king comes in at, I was intrigued to discover that Charlotte Cory, the ceramacist, has produced &quot;A Royal Mug In Waiting&quot;, available from the Rebecca Hossack Gallery. It`s eighteen quid, but has a lovely portrait of a Spaniel on it.

Guess what I`m going to do next......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Auntie E you have given me quite a TURN! Charles The Hundredth ?!?! One is more than enough, thank you!</p>
<p>Whilst Googling to find out what number our future king comes in at, I was intrigued to discover that Charlotte Cory, the ceramacist, has produced &#8220;A Royal Mug In Waiting&#8221;, available from the Rebecca Hossack Gallery. It`s eighteen quid, but has a lovely portrait of a Spaniel on it.</p>
<p>Guess what I`m going to do next&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog, Rightback, and all the others over the years. And good luck with The Times championship. We&#039;ll miss your contributions! 

I saved this puzzle until Christmas Eve and found it relatively easy to get into -- my first was ILL MET etc. Still managed to make one mistake -- NIGHTCAP instead of NIGHTJAR. Had a niggling feeling that it was wrong at the time, but didn&#039;t follow that up...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog, Rightback, and all the others over the years. And good luck with The Times championship. We&#8217;ll miss your contributions! </p>
<p>I saved this puzzle until Christmas Eve and found it relatively easy to get into &#8212; my first was ILL MET etc. Still managed to make one mistake &#8212; NIGHTCAP instead of NIGHTJAR. Had a niggling feeling that it was wrong at the time, but didn&#8217;t follow that up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sschua (#23), again re 12ac, I think you&#039;re parsing is right, but the first part of it (DEMONS) is nót properly defined [unlike TRAIT]. Suggesting that DEMONS is a part of DEMONSTRATE (&#039;display&#039;) does indeed link both 12acs here, but is it enough to define DEMONS? Or should we know from 16,12 that the first part has &#039;spirit&#039; as the definition?

sidey, yes, that&#039;s a thought - and you&#039;re right, of course, although Eileen&#039;s idea of Charles C is an attractive one too.
On previous occasion I wasn&#039;t happy with eg V for &#039;fifth&#039; and X for &#039;tenth&#039; [without &#039;the&#039;], both of which cannot be explained in a similar way as C(enti).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sschua (#23), again re 12ac, I think you&#8217;re parsing is right, but the first part of it (DEMONS) is nót properly defined [unlike TRAIT]. Suggesting that DEMONS is a part of DEMONSTRATE (&#8216;display&#8217;) does indeed link both 12acs here, but is it enough to define DEMONS? Or should we know from 16,12 that the first part has &#8216;spirit&#8217; as the definition?</p>
<p>sidey, yes, that&#8217;s a thought &#8211; and you&#8217;re right, of course, although Eileen&#8217;s idea of Charles C is an attractive one too.<br />
On previous occasion I wasn&#8217;t happy with eg V for &#8216;fifth&#8217; and X for &#8216;tenth&#8217; [without 'the'], both of which cannot be explained in a similar way as C(enti).</p>
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		<title>By: sidey</title>
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		<dc:creator>sidey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 15:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C also stands for centi the prefix meaning one hundredth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C also stands for centi the prefix meaning one hundredth.</p>
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		<title>By: scchua</title>
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		<dc:creator>scchua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 15:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eileen@18 and Gaufrid@19.  Got it, add &quot;earth&quot; to &quot;den&quot;, &quot;lair&quot;, &quot;holt&quot;, and &quot;covert&quot;.

Sil van den Hoek@21, re 12A, I think we&#039;re both making the same point (my@17).  &quot;Characteristic&quot; would be a definition for TRAIT but that would overlap with the clue for DEMONSTRATE, plus &quot;(as some would say)&quot; would be out of place for the clue for TRAIT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eileen@18 and Gaufrid@19.  Got it, add &#8220;earth&#8221; to &#8220;den&#8221;, &#8220;lair&#8221;, &#8220;holt&#8221;, and &#8220;covert&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sil van den Hoek@21, re 12A, I think we&#8217;re both making the same point (my@17).  &#8220;Characteristic&#8221; would be a definition for TRAIT but that would overlap with the clue for DEMONSTRATE, plus &#8220;(as some would say)&#8221; would be out of place for the clue for TRAIT.</p>
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