Comments on: Guardian 25,223 / Brummie http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/19/guardian-25223-brummie/ Never knowingly undersolved. Sun, 19 May 2013 00:34:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: maarvarq http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/19/guardian-25223-brummie/#comment-148918 maarvarq Tue, 01 Feb 2011 04:08:48 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25406#comment-148918 I too usually find Brummie’s efforts an unrewarding grind, and this was no exception. I thought 1 dn was unnecessarily opaque for the root clue of the puzzle.

]]> By: tupu http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/19/guardian-25223-brummie/#comment-147368 tupu Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:38:46 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25406#comment-147368 Hi Molongolo
Yes. I missed it too (see 8).

]]> By: molonglo http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/19/guardian-25223-brummie/#comment-147366 molonglo Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:14:35 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25406#comment-147366 Tupu@38 – you’re right: I missed it. Extra good clue, therefore.

]]> By: Robi http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/19/guardian-25223-brummie/#comment-147354 Robi Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:22:06 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25406#comment-147354 :) tupu – it is a bit late for this. I think malic acid is the predominant acid in apples, but you might find some maleic acid as well. Anyway, it was nicely clued – I thought at the beginning it might be formic, although that didn’t parse (but did have the right number of letters.)

]]> By: tupu http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/19/guardian-25223-brummie/#comment-147350 tupu Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:50:32 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25406#comment-147350 in penult. para!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) This damned keyboard can’t mind-read!!

]]> By: tupu http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/19/guardian-25223-brummie/#comment-147349 tupu Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:49:13 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25406#comment-147349 Please delite ‘they are’ in penult. ara.

]]> By: tupu http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/19/guardian-25223-brummie/#comment-147348 tupu Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:48:13 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25406#comment-147348 Hi Robi
Yes and no!!
There is clearly a link for a start between the two words ‘malic’ and ‘maleic’ and the Latin for apple (malum). Then Chambers says under ‘maleic’ see ‘malic. There it says that malic (acid) is obtained from apples and ‘maleic acid’ is obtained from ‘malic acid’. As far as I can tell from Oed, the name maleic comes most directly from French maleique which was coined to mark the difference from and the connection to malic (malique)acid.

Of course it quickly becomes clear that life is more complicated than this. One source says you can make malic acid from maleic acid! It will be clear I am no chemist – but I guess they are maleic acid may be simply synthesised industrially these days.

As I don’t want our fellow commentators to get too excited about all this juicy stuff at this late hour, I think I’d better stop here.

]]> By: tupu http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/19/guardian-25223-brummie/#comment-147344 tupu Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:33:05 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25406#comment-147344 Hi molongolo
Re okra 9a. Coreless is right surely. Okra is ‘cook rare’ when CO+RE are removed from the front and back respectively.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/19/guardian-25223-brummie/#comment-147341 Sarah Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:47:33 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25406#comment-147341 May I add an extra thought to the ‘reel’-'rock’ link? Perhaps a reference to Chuck Berry’s “Reelin’ and rockin’”?

]]> By: Robi http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/19/guardian-25223-brummie/#comment-147340 Robi Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:38:06 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25406#comment-147340 Stella @32 and tupu @24. I think the acid in apples is malic acid.

For maleic acid see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maleic_acid . It is used in drug manufacture.

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