Comments on: Financial Times 13,586 by Cinephile http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/20/financial-times-13586-by-cinephile/ Never knowingly undersolved. Fri, 24 May 2013 14:37:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Wil Ransome http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/20/financial-times-13586-by-cinephile/#comment-149547 Wil Ransome Sat, 05 Feb 2011 22:48:02 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25288#comment-149547 And I also should have mentioned 5dn, where what seems to be intended is ‘In it I ate d’, but isn’t ‘a bite of’ doing double duty? ‘had a bite of’ = ‘ate’, and ‘a bite of dinner’ is d{inner}. If so, rather libertarian.

]]> By: Wil Ransome http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/20/financial-times-13586-by-cinephile/#comment-149546 Wil Ransome Sat, 05 Feb 2011 22:43:19 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25288#comment-149546 Usual moans about Cinephile, although there were I suppose some quite good clues, like 10ac, 20ac, 1dn, 4dn. I thought 13ac (Short rice cooked for singer) was quite pathetic — the most obvious anagram and an absolutely nothing surface. Like Sil can’t understand what the etc is doing in 27ac, and agree the hidden indicators (for in 12ac, and whatever it is in 27ac) are pretty feeble. And what are all those words doing in 2, 7dn? Hardly pithy.

]]> By: Sil van den Hoek http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/20/financial-times-13586-by-cinephile/#comment-147503 Sil van den Hoek Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:32:36 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25288#comment-147503 Pete, you’re right about ” ‘tell’ in 24 across”.
The pdf DID have a colon after ‘queue’, so for some reason I’ve overlooked it.
Let’s blame it on the printer.
But I am still not really happy with these “hidden answer indicators”.

]]> By: Pete Maclean http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/20/financial-times-13586-by-cinephile/#comment-147498 Pete Maclean Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:09:13 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25288#comment-147498 Sil, why do you think “tell” should be capitalised in 24ac? I can see no reason.

bamberger, I had not heard of pes as an English word either but it was easy to guess and quickly confirmed in Chambers. “Pes” happens to be the Portuguese word for feet.

I can understand not being taken with 15d but I maintain my admiration of it.

]]> By: bamberger http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/20/financial-times-13586-by-cinephile/#comment-147478 bamberger Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:25:42 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25288#comment-147478 Usually I finish the prize puzzles (not that I submit them) because I dip in and out and use a few electronic aids -but found this hard and had several gaps.Mind you equally true of Mudd’s 13592 where I’m looking forward to see if it really was as hard as I found it.

12a Oh dear missed a hidden word.
14a Never heard of pes
16a heard of gatroenteritis so I suppose fair enough
1d Pin =number -presumably a reference to those four digit things you have to commit to memory
15d Not very taken with this.

]]> By: Sil van den Hoek http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/20/financial-times-13586-by-cinephile/#comment-147426 Sil van den Hoek Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:20:36 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25288#comment-147426 A week ago I didn’t know what to think of this Cinephile.
In my notes I had put about 8 question marks.
After a chat with my PinC and after reading the blog (and the comments) above, there are only 3 left.

Of course, ANGSTROM (27ac) is a hidden answer, and the only way that I can make sense of anything like an indicator, is the way Pete does it (as the result of an eruption). However, what is “etc” doing there, especially since it is placed behind “erupted” (so obviously not being part of the fodder)?

The other hidden answer indicator, the one in 12ac is also worth a question mark.
“Ordinal for the man in the moon”: “for” as the indicator? Not for me (yet).
If Cinephile would have said “The man in the moon for ordinal” (which is nonsense) than the use of “for” would have been more or less clear to me, even though still not convincingly so.

Finally in 24ac (RETAIL) there’s something odd going on, probably a typo in the PDF version.
“…. about queue. tell!”. Surely “tell” must be capitalised – unfortunately it did confuse me for a while.

Normally I do not like those extremely long anagrams, but I think 2,7 was very nice (enhanced by its surface).

Thank you, Pete, for the blog.
There were some comments on ENTERIC, and it took me some time to parse it [one of my early question marks], too, but I think it’s fine – although I would have made the word “into” part of ENTER, so “Put yourself into”.

]]> By: Pete Maclean http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/20/financial-times-13586-by-cinephile/#comment-147383 Pete Maclean Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:23:42 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25288#comment-147383 JS, Thank you. I should have seen that!

And thanks to the other commenters.

]]> By: Scarpia http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/20/financial-times-13586-by-cinephile/#comment-147382 Scarpia Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:08:18 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25288#comment-147382 Thanks Eileen.
You’re up late! :)

]]> By: Scarpia http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/20/financial-times-13586-by-cinephile/#comment-147380 Scarpia Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:03:46 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25288#comment-147380 Thanks Pete.
For 6 down ‘…wherein one had a bite of dinner’ The IN could come from from wherein but that still leaves us short of IT.
I read 25 in the same way as JS and share your misgivings re 27.One of Cinephile’s trademark liberties I suppose.
Really liked 1/18 as well,Cinephile at his best.

]]> By: Eileen http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/20/financial-times-13586-by-cinephile/#comment-147379 Eileen Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:55:30 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=25288#comment-147379 Sorry for the duplication, Jan!

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