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		<title>By: Scarpia</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/25/financial-times-13600-neo/#comment-148148</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarpia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Agentzero.
 I found this a bit easier than some of Neo&#039;s puzzles but still very enjoyable.
I don&#039;t think too much general knowledge was required to solve this puzzle (try Mordred in today&#039;s Indy!).
I am totally amazed that 5 out of 6 of  bamberger&#039;s colleagues had not heard of Joseph Lister!
Sil - if you use someone you treat them unfairly as in &quot;I felt I was being used&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Agentzero.<br />
 I found this a bit easier than some of Neo&#8217;s puzzles but still very enjoyable.<br />
I don&#8217;t think too much general knowledge was required to solve this puzzle (try Mordred in today&#8217;s Indy!).<br />
I am totally amazed that 5 out of 6 of  bamberger&#8217;s colleagues had not heard of Joseph Lister!<br />
Sil &#8211; if you use someone you treat them unfairly as in &#8220;I felt I was being used&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Agentzero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agentzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Sil

Thoughtful comments as always.

Re 9 across: If you are worked unfairly by your employer, you might be said to have been used by him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sil</p>
<p>Thoughtful comments as always.</p>
<p>Re 9 across: If you are worked unfairly by your employer, you might be said to have been used by him.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As always I was very pleased to see Neo on the FT list when the day began, because I like the combination of his accessibility (even for the less experienced) and precision, while at the same there is room for some adventurous clueing too [even though today it was rather straightforward].
I can only agree with jmac @5 - &quot;wonderful light touch&quot;.

My last entry was ACRE (27ac), focusing on C for &quot;cold&quot; and not finding any justification for &quot;water&quot;. Ah well, I could hit myself! And although a very apt indicator (especially here), I can&#039;t remember having seen &quot;without&quot; that many times before in a Neo (but maybe I&#039;m wrong). I find it always a bit of an old-fashioned container indicator, a bit more Araucaria than Neo, if you know what I mean.

I don&#039;t see where the overdose of &quot;roses&quot; is coming from. There were only two clues with &quot;rose&quot; in it - or did miss something?

Personally, I don&#039;t see 13ac as an example of an indirect anagrind. It is only &quot;about&quot; that has to be translated into C first.
In today&#039;s Paul there was &quot;Two hundred failures&quot; for (CC FAILURES)*, in my opinion also not réally an indirect anagram.

I knew &quot;Lister&quot; only from a very recent puzzle, maybe even a FT Prize Puzzle, so I shouldn&#039;t say more now.

I liked &quot;Resin down there in bag&quot; (18d), especially the HELL part - embedded in such a natural way.
But I do not fully understand why 9ac says &quot;worked unfairly&quot;.

Good puzzle!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always I was very pleased to see Neo on the FT list when the day began, because I like the combination of his accessibility (even for the less experienced) and precision, while at the same there is room for some adventurous clueing too [even though today it was rather straightforward].<br />
I can only agree with jmac @5 &#8211; &#8220;wonderful light touch&#8221;.</p>
<p>My last entry was ACRE (27ac), focusing on C for &#8220;cold&#8221; and not finding any justification for &#8220;water&#8221;. Ah well, I could hit myself! And although a very apt indicator (especially here), I can&#8217;t remember having seen &#8220;without&#8221; that many times before in a Neo (but maybe I&#8217;m wrong). I find it always a bit of an old-fashioned container indicator, a bit more Araucaria than Neo, if you know what I mean.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see where the overdose of &#8220;roses&#8221; is coming from. There were only two clues with &#8220;rose&#8221; in it &#8211; or did miss something?</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t see 13ac as an example of an indirect anagrind. It is only &#8220;about&#8221; that has to be translated into C first.<br />
In today&#8217;s Paul there was &#8220;Two hundred failures&#8221; for (CC FAILURES)*, in my opinion also not réally an indirect anagram.</p>
<p>I knew &#8220;Lister&#8221; only from a very recent puzzle, maybe even a FT Prize Puzzle, so I shouldn&#8217;t say more now.</p>
<p>I liked &#8220;Resin down there in bag&#8221; (18d), especially the HELL part &#8211; embedded in such a natural way.<br />
But I do not fully understand why 9ac says &#8220;worked unfairly&#8221;.</p>
<p>Good puzzle!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly, NMS: hid+ian was &#039;at&#039; op. Many thanks too for (all) the other comments, and for a great blog by The Agent.

As to gk-ness, or general obscurity, that&#039;s certainly not intended, but I do insist on crediting the daily FT audience with a certain standard of intellect. Especially given that most contributors here seem to be upset or bored when it&#039;s an absolute pushover. And hey: isn&#039;t Lister about the most famous surgeon there is? The Father of Antiseptic Surgery and a President of the Royal Society? And hasn&#039;t Margaret Atwood been shortlisted for the Booker five times, winning once? I mean no disrespect, but where you bin livin caveboy?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, NMS: hid+ian was &#8216;at&#8217; op. Many thanks too for (all) the other comments, and for a great blog by The Agent.</p>
<p>As to gk-ness, or general obscurity, that&#8217;s certainly not intended, but I do insist on crediting the daily FT audience with a certain standard of intellect. Especially given that most contributors here seem to be upset or bored when it&#8217;s an absolute pushover. And hey: isn&#8217;t Lister about the most famous surgeon there is? The Father of Antiseptic Surgery and a President of the Royal Society? And hasn&#8217;t Margaret Atwood been shortlisted for the Booker five times, winning once? I mean no disrespect, but where you bin livin caveboy?</p>
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		<title>By: bamberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>bamberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony 

I did get 7d but was left thinking &quot;Lister&quot; -who he? Of course googling explains. 
23a Didn&#039;t have the w but even if I had I probably still wouldn&#039;t have seen the wood for the trees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony </p>
<p>I did get 7d but was left thinking &#8220;Lister&#8221; -who he? Of course googling explains.<br />
23a Didn&#8217;t have the w but even if I had I probably still wouldn&#8217;t have seen the wood for the trees.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Welsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, AgentZero.  Never heard the word ophidian before, but got it anyway.  Otherwise found this relatively easy.  

Bamberger, Ian is a generic Scotsman.  It is just a Scottish name.  I am not sure I had heard of Lister, but with some of the cross letters BLISTERED seemed obvious.  Margaret Atwood is pretty well known at least in the US, but in any case could have been guessed once one had the W.  Not having heard of Teletype or Acre is perhaps a reflection of your tender age. I am old enough to remember teletypes but not Acre in its hayday!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, AgentZero.  Never heard the word ophidian before, but got it anyway.  Otherwise found this relatively easy.  </p>
<p>Bamberger, Ian is a generic Scotsman.  It is just a Scottish name.  I am not sure I had heard of Lister, but with some of the cross letters BLISTERED seemed obvious.  Margaret Atwood is pretty well known at least in the US, but in any case could have been guessed once one had the W.  Not having heard of Teletype or Acre is perhaps a reflection of your tender age. I am old enough to remember teletypes but not Acre in its hayday!</p>
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		<title>By: bamberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>bamberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too many general knowledge type clues for me. Straw poll of nearby colleagues.
23a 0/6 Who? 
27a Acre  2/6 had heard of it.
7d Lister 1/6 had heard of him and only because in Lister House at school

19a Who is the Scotsman Ian? 
12a,19a&amp; 14d were unknowns to me.

Thanks for the blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many general knowledge type clues for me. Straw poll of nearby colleagues.<br />
23a 0/6 Who?<br />
27a Acre  2/6 had heard of it.<br />
7d Lister 1/6 had heard of him and only because in Lister House at school</p>
<p>19a Who is the Scotsman Ian?<br />
12a,19a&amp; 14d were unknowns to me.</p>
<p>Thanks for the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Agentzero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agentzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nmsindy:  I think you are right and I retract my nit regarding 15a.  In other words, the cryptic reading is &quot;at &#039;work&#039;, &#039;kept secret&#039; ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nmsindy:  I think you are right and I retract my nit regarding 15a.  In other words, the cryptic reading is &#8220;at &#8216;work&#8217;, &#8216;kept secret&#8217; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks, Agentzero, this was very enjoyable.

Well done, Neo, and my thanks to you, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Agentzero, this was very enjoyable.</p>
<p>Well done, Neo, and my thanks to you, too.</p>
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		<title>By: jmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A super puzzle with Neo displaying a wonderful light touch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A super puzzle with Neo displaying a wonderful light touch.</p>
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