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		<title>By: Scarpia</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/01/31/quiptic-crossword-no-585/#comment-148909</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarpia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks PeterO.
  A very good puzzle from Nutmeg.I agree with other comments that it was probably too difficult for beginners but there were some excellent clues.MISGOVERN,ZEPHYR and NOTWITHSTANDING were my 3 favourites.
I guess LAPLAND is not a country,but as you say,it is a good enough definition for a crossword.
Derek @8 - I wasn&#039;t totally convinced with that definition either,but dictionary does give &#039;To try to equal or surpass&#039; so I think it is o.k.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks PeterO.<br />
  A very good puzzle from Nutmeg.I agree with other comments that it was probably too difficult for beginners but there were some excellent clues.MISGOVERN,ZEPHYR and NOTWITHSTANDING were my 3 favourites.<br />
I guess LAPLAND is not a country,but as you say,it is a good enough definition for a crossword.<br />
Derek @8 &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t totally convinced with that definition either,but dictionary does give &#8216;To try to equal or surpass&#8217; so I think it is o.k.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Lazenby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Lazenby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Failed miserably. I may be the class dummy, but I&#039;m not a beginner, so this definitely didn&#039;t fulfil it&#039;s purpose. Never heard that use of RHINO, and can&#039;t see the definition EMULATES and challenges as valid either. Other&#039;s were I didn&#039;t get were fair enough but a little indirect to be used here.

Oh well back to looking at RSS readers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Failed miserably. I may be the class dummy, but I&#8217;m not a beginner, so this definitely didn&#8217;t fulfil it&#8217;s purpose. Never heard that use of RHINO, and can&#8217;t see the definition EMULATES and challenges as valid either. Other&#8217;s were I didn&#8217;t get were fair enough but a little indirect to be used here.</p>
<p>Oh well back to looking at RSS readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitely a tricky one, this, so I&#039;m not sure what &#039;beginners&#039; (whoever they are) will have made of it.

I thought ZEPHYR was extremely clever and also liked LONG JUMP for its concise surface.  Least favourite was WELLINGTON BOOTS, because I&#039;m not a big fan of clueing a particular place by reference to its country.

Excellent blog as always, Peter, thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a tricky one, this, so I&#8217;m not sure what &#8216;beginners&#8217; (whoever they are) will have made of it.</p>
<p>I thought ZEPHYR was extremely clever and also liked LONG JUMP for its concise surface.  Least favourite was WELLINGTON BOOTS, because I&#8217;m not a big fan of clueing a particular place by reference to its country.</p>
<p>Excellent blog as always, Peter, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Stella Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stella Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Peter and Nutmeg. 

I came into this with enthusiasm, looking for a quick solve, as I had things to do; and was pleased to see Nutmeg&#039;s pen-name, as I usually find her(?) puzzles entertaining.

I eventually left it half way through, in order to get on with my morning, and have just finished it, not without difficulty, but with a clearer mind once my tasks were done.

I now have ten minutes to look at today&#039;s Rufus. I doubt I&#039;ll get very far with that, either :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Peter and Nutmeg. </p>
<p>I came into this with enthusiasm, looking for a quick solve, as I had things to do; and was pleased to see Nutmeg&#8217;s pen-name, as I usually find her(?) puzzles entertaining.</p>
<p>I eventually left it half way through, in order to get on with my morning, and have just finished it, not without difficulty, but with a clearer mind once my tasks were done.</p>
<p>I now have ten minutes to look at today&#8217;s Rufus. I doubt I&#8217;ll get very far with that, either <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tokyocolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tokyocolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you PeterO. I don&#039;t think you were leaden, this was not an easy solve. I found it more difficult than the Rufus and Indy I did earlier today. Rhino was a lucky guess for me, but biggest grumble was reserved for 18dn. An emu is an &quot;Aussie&quot; runner. No hint of the homonym in the clue. 

There were some good clues, I too liked 8dn. But overall it was too obscure and convoluted for the purported target solvers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you PeterO. I don&#8217;t think you were leaden, this was not an easy solve. I found it more difficult than the Rufus and Indy I did earlier today. Rhino was a lucky guess for me, but biggest grumble was reserved for 18dn. An emu is an &#8220;Aussie&#8221; runner. No hint of the homonym in the clue. </p>
<p>There were some good clues, I too liked 8dn. But overall it was too obscure and convoluted for the purported target solvers.</p>
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		<title>By: crypticsue</title>
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		<dc:creator>crypticsue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am glad other people found this hard going too - much harder than the usual Quiptic level.  Thanks for the puzzle and the review.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad other people found this hard going too &#8211; much harder than the usual Quiptic level.  Thanks for the puzzle and the review.</p>
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		<title>By: Robi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Nutmeg and PeterO for a superb blog.

I think this was definitely a bit difficult for a Quiptic. I found some problem with the NE corner. I particularly disliked 10 - as previously, if you are going to use an archaic word it might be nice to indicate this with &#039;old&#039; or somesuch. 

I guess 7 was OK, once the right word for regularly was found - I read this though as an &amp;lit with other possible solutions such as &#039;lies in,&#039; &#039;sits in&#039; etc.

Maybe I&#039;m just Monday grumpy; though I did like 8 a lot :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nutmeg and PeterO for a superb blog.</p>
<p>I think this was definitely a bit difficult for a Quiptic. I found some problem with the NE corner. I particularly disliked 10 &#8211; as previously, if you are going to use an archaic word it might be nice to indicate this with &#8216;old&#8217; or somesuch. </p>
<p>I guess 7 was OK, once the right word for regularly was found &#8211; I read this though as an &amp;lit with other possible solutions such as &#8216;lies in,&#8217; &#8216;sits in&#8217; etc.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m just Monday grumpy; though I did like 8 a lot <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pommers</title>
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		<dc:creator>pommers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tricky for a Quiptic IMHO! Took about twice as long as normal. First Nutmeg I&#039;ve ever tackled so perhaps I just wasn&#039;t on the right wavelength.

I agree with Andrew about 21d, seems an OK definition to me.

I think 8d is my favourite, I got the answer but took ages to see why. Definate smile when the penny dropped!

Thanks for an excellent review Peter and to Nutmeg for the puzzle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tricky for a Quiptic IMHO! Took about twice as long as normal. First Nutmeg I&#8217;ve ever tackled so perhaps I just wasn&#8217;t on the right wavelength.</p>
<p>I agree with Andrew about 21d, seems an OK definition to me.</p>
<p>I think 8d is my favourite, I got the answer but took ages to see why. Definate smile when the penny dropped!</p>
<p>Thanks for an excellent review Peter and to Nutmeg for the puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Peter - I found this hard going too.  I can&#039;t see your problem with 21dn - the definition is &quot;causes anxiety&quot;, which is a good definition of &quot;alarms&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Peter &#8211; I found this hard going too.  I can&#8217;t see your problem with 21dn &#8211; the definition is &#8220;causes anxiety&#8221;, which is a good definition of &#8220;alarms&#8221;.</p>
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