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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/03/guardian-25236-araucaria/#comment-150387</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 18:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Guardian Weekly crosswords reach us late in Africa. My daughter got 9dn as follows. Potter&#039;s bunnies are Flopsy, Mopsy and Cottontail. The last two are cut in the comic strip Bunny Suicides, leaving only Flopsy Bunnies - the story by Beatrix Potter!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Guardian Weekly crosswords reach us late in Africa. My daughter got 9dn as follows. Potter&#8217;s bunnies are Flopsy, Mopsy and Cottontail. The last two are cut in the comic strip Bunny Suicides, leaving only Flopsy Bunnies &#8211; the story by Beatrix Potter!</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/03/guardian-25236-araucaria/#comment-150246</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi rfb

I&#039;m afraid I had to google this one: they&#039;re all equally [un]familiar to me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi rfb</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid I had to google this one: they&#8217;re all equally [un]familiar to me!</p>
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		<title>By: rfb</title>
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		<dc:creator>rfb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also a latecomer via the Guardian Weekly.  I found the crossword initially very frustrating, then highly enjoyable.  Because it&#039;s Araucaria, I persevered and was rewarded :-).  The only clue that I would have a minor complaint about is 27A.  Surely Rosalind Russell (&quot;Mame&quot;) or Rita Hayworth (&quot;Put the blame on Mame&quot; in &quot;Gilda&quot;) would be more recognisable to 99.99% of the populace than Jane Russell.  I looked up the relevant movie in Halliwell - perhaps the 3D made a big impact on an impressionable younger Araucaria!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also a latecomer via the Guardian Weekly.  I found the crossword initially very frustrating, then highly enjoyable.  Because it&#8217;s Araucaria, I persevered and was rewarded <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  The only clue that I would have a minor complaint about is 27A.  Surely Rosalind Russell (&#8220;Mame&#8221;) or Rita Hayworth (&#8220;Put the blame on Mame&#8221; in &#8220;Gilda&#8221;) would be more recognisable to 99.99% of the populace than Jane Russell.  I looked up the relevant movie in Halliwell &#8211; perhaps the 3D made a big impact on an impressionable younger Araucaria!</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I actually like my solution and am proud of it! [Even though it is wrong].&quot;

So do I and so you should be! It&#039;s always good to hear how others, too, go chasing wild geese or red herrings.

It must be quite frustrating for you not being able to join in the discussion on the day but don&#039;t forget that the blogger, if no one else, always sees your comments, so keep them coming! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I actually like my solution and am proud of it! [Even though it is wrong].&#8221;</p>
<p>So do I and so you should be! It&#8217;s always good to hear how others, too, go chasing wild geese or red herrings.</p>
<p>It must be quite frustrating for you not being able to join in the discussion on the day but don&#8217;t forget that the blogger, if no one else, always sees your comments, so keep them coming! <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Eileen

As usual a bit late from me as this was the Guardian Weekly puzzle.

I just wanted to give you an example of how it is possible to convince oneself of the correctness of a wrong answer.

I was aware that there were several authors lurking around the puzzle, and I had done only about 5 or 6 clues.  Two of these were 2D TEMPURA and 4D ATTIRED, which gave me -U---R for 12A.
I therefore solved this as &#039;AUTHOR&#039; which seemed to fit the theme of the puzzle.  I &#039;easily&#039; parsed this as well as &#039;Clothes with gold&#039; being gold both at the front and back of a solution, so AU at the front and OR at the back.  This left &#039;TH&#039; to explain. I had this as &#039;One of many&#039; as in Thirtie[th] Ten[th] N[th] etc.

Okay it didn&#039;t have a separate definition left for &#039;AUTHOR&#039; but as it was a run-on clue with 13A that started with &#039;Write&#039;, I thought it was just Auracaria&#039;s quirkiness.  So in went &#039;AUTHOR&#039;.  I was very pleased with myself.

Because of that I struggled mightily for anything that would fit 3D even though I could see &#039;GRANT&#039; as an obvious solution, I felt it had to be something else.  Eventually, after getting STYGIAN I realised it had to be GRANT so that my lovely &#039;AUTHOR&#039; must be wrong.  I then got the correct answer of SUITOR.

I actually like my solution and am proud of it! [Even though it is wrong].

Great blog as usual from you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eileen</p>
<p>As usual a bit late from me as this was the Guardian Weekly puzzle.</p>
<p>I just wanted to give you an example of how it is possible to convince oneself of the correctness of a wrong answer.</p>
<p>I was aware that there were several authors lurking around the puzzle, and I had done only about 5 or 6 clues.  Two of these were 2D TEMPURA and 4D ATTIRED, which gave me -U&#8212;R for 12A.<br />
I therefore solved this as &#8216;AUTHOR&#8217; which seemed to fit the theme of the puzzle.  I &#8216;easily&#8217; parsed this as well as &#8216;Clothes with gold&#8217; being gold both at the front and back of a solution, so AU at the front and OR at the back.  This left &#8216;TH&#8217; to explain. I had this as &#8216;One of many&#8217; as in Thirtie[th] Ten[th] N[th] etc.</p>
<p>Okay it didn&#8217;t have a separate definition left for &#8216;AUTHOR&#8217; but as it was a run-on clue with 13A that started with &#8216;Write&#8217;, I thought it was just Auracaria&#8217;s quirkiness.  So in went &#8216;AUTHOR&#8217;.  I was very pleased with myself.</p>
<p>Because of that I struggled mightily for anything that would fit 3D even though I could see &#8216;GRANT&#8217; as an obvious solution, I felt it had to be something else.  Eventually, after getting STYGIAN I realised it had to be GRANT so that my lovely &#8216;AUTHOR&#8217; must be wrong.  I then got the correct answer of SUITOR.</p>
<p>I actually like my solution and am proud of it! [Even though it is wrong].</p>
<p>Great blog as usual from you.</p>
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		<title>By: MartW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MartW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to be so late submitting a comment but this was partly because I was struggling with the puzzle for so long, getting nowhere fast as it were. I agree with most of what Sil @ 71 says and I have ended up being another of the unhappy (not so) few!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be so late submitting a comment but this was partly because I was struggling with the puzzle for so long, getting nowhere fast as it were. I agree with most of what Sil @ 71 says and I have ended up being another of the unhappy (not so) few!</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 20:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Huw, if youre still there

Just say &#039;Uly-sses&#039; to yourself.:-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Huw, if youre still there</p>
<p>Just say &#8216;Uly-sses&#8217; to yourself.:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 20:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A fun and interesting puzzle.  16/17 cracked the theme for me - I was close at &quot;James Boyce&quot; when the shilling dropped like a thunderclap.  Next was the obvious ULYSSES, although I still don&#039;t see why &quot;seas&quot; sounds like &quot;sses&quot;???  Somehow I knew TELEMACHUS, and of course, as with any of these themed multi-referential puzzles, one goes from having four answers to fourteen in a hurry.  GRANT came very slowly to me, but with a big smile when it did.  Lots of wonderfully twisted clues here.

I think &quot;out of town&quot; is &quot;encouraging car use&quot; in that if something is out of town one is more likely to have to drive oneself there rather than take the train or bus or bicycle.

I really enjoyed ATTIRED &gt;&gt; OVERALL, too.

Thanks Eileen for some parsing I wasn&#039;t solid on (ATie, for example), and Mr. A. for yet another treat.  Someday perhaps I&#039;ll get the &quot;SSES&quot; bit...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fun and interesting puzzle.  16/17 cracked the theme for me &#8211; I was close at &#8220;James Boyce&#8221; when the shilling dropped like a thunderclap.  Next was the obvious ULYSSES, although I still don&#8217;t see why &#8220;seas&#8221; sounds like &#8220;sses&#8221;???  Somehow I knew TELEMACHUS, and of course, as with any of these themed multi-referential puzzles, one goes from having four answers to fourteen in a hurry.  GRANT came very slowly to me, but with a big smile when it did.  Lots of wonderfully twisted clues here.</p>
<p>I think &#8220;out of town&#8221; is &#8220;encouraging car use&#8221; in that if something is out of town one is more likely to have to drive oneself there rather than take the train or bus or bicycle.</p>
<p>I really enjoyed ATTIRED &gt;&gt; OVERALL, too.</p>
<p>Thanks Eileen for some parsing I wasn&#8217;t solid on (ATie, for example), and Mr. A. for yet another treat.  Someday perhaps I&#8217;ll get the &#8220;SSES&#8221; bit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 13:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Post #70 must be one of a Bad Loser! :)

Saying this crossword wasn&#039;t good, is a bit harsh, isn&#039;t it.
But I still think that it didn&#039;t give a fair chance to solvers who didn&#039;t find any access to the theme. The clues ánd the solutions in the grid were so much linked that it was nearly impossible to open up the puzzle.

That hardly anyone else had that problem, was because the theme was cracked, which makes solving very different and certainly more enjoyable.

Of all the regulars we were probably the Unhappy Few today.
Can happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post #70 must be one of a Bad Loser! <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Saying this crossword wasn&#8217;t good, is a bit harsh, isn&#8217;t it.<br />
But I still think that it didn&#8217;t give a fair chance to solvers who didn&#8217;t find any access to the theme. The clues ánd the solutions in the grid were so much linked that it was nearly impossible to open up the puzzle.</p>
<p>That hardly anyone else had that problem, was because the theme was cracked, which makes solving very different and certainly more enjoyable.</p>
<p>Of all the regulars we were probably the Unhappy Few today.<br />
Can happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keats, Gremlins, Chapman [Graham?], Araucaria, Cortez, Rieu [André?].
I repeat wholeheartedly, yes, wholeheartedly:
&quot;Wonder what the Man in the Street thought about it today. I’m not sure&quot;

When you don&#039;t get any answer related to the theme (as we did), this crossword is extremely inaccessible.
Enhanced by the fact that there is quite some &#039;iffy&#039; clueing along the way.

Discussion on the Odyssey and other nursery rhymes ( :)) is fine by me, but please do realise that it&#039;s not really relevant to solvers that are not familiar with the theme [probably at least half of the Guardian readers].

Even on hindsight (after kicking ourselves), we thought this wasn&#039;t a good crossword.
Clever but not good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keats, Gremlins, Chapman [Graham?], Araucaria, Cortez, Rieu [André?].<br />
I repeat wholeheartedly, yes, wholeheartedly:<br />
&#8220;Wonder what the Man in the Street thought about it today. I’m not sure&#8221;</p>
<p>When you don&#8217;t get any answer related to the theme (as we did), this crossword is extremely inaccessible.<br />
Enhanced by the fact that there is quite some &#8216;iffy&#8217; clueing along the way.</p>
<p>Discussion on the Odyssey and other nursery rhymes ( <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) is fine by me, but please do realise that it&#8217;s not really relevant to solvers that are not familiar with the theme [probably at least half of the Guardian readers].</p>
<p>Even on hindsight (after kicking ourselves), we thought this wasn&#8217;t a good crossword.<br />
Clever but not good.</p>
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