Comments on: Guardian 25240 Puck … Everything and then some more http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/08/guardian-25240-puck-everything-and-then-some-more/ Never knowingly undersolved. Sun, 19 May 2013 16:10:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Pat O'Brien http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/08/guardian-25240-puck-everything-and-then-some-more/#comment-153748 Pat O'Brien Sat, 12 Mar 2011 03:34:17 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=26243#comment-153748 Hi Uncle Yap.
Further comment re 8d:
It appeared in this mornings’ Courier Mail as -
Noted drama as Princess Elizabeth initially escaped with the Queen Mother to America.

This is most unusual as the “Courier” usually publishes them exactly as they appear in the Guardian – typos and all!

Interesting to read the Canberra Times treatment of the clue though.

Regards

]]> By: maarvarq http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/08/guardian-25240-puck-everything-and-then-some-more/#comment-151452 maarvarq Mon, 21 Feb 2011 05:58:27 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=26243#comment-151452 Re: the Canberra Times’ unexpected appearance in our edition, this was weird, as I’m quite used to Guardian compilers using “the Guardian” to clue “us”, or even “we”, but having my own paper’s name appear threw me.

]]> By: Germy http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/08/guardian-25240-puck-everything-and-then-some-more/#comment-151271 Germy Fri, 18 Feb 2011 22:03:15 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=26243#comment-151271 You may be interested to know that this puzzle was published in The Canberra Times on Saturday, 19 February and, in the clue for 8 down, the editor had gone to the trouble of replacing The Guardian with The Canberra Times! So they were on their toes here, but Uncle Yap’s point is still valid, I feel.

]]> By: tupu http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/08/guardian-25240-puck-everything-and-then-some-more/#comment-149869 tupu Tue, 08 Feb 2011 23:32:35 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=26243#comment-149869 Hi Martin H
ZA apparently stands for Zuid Afrika. SA seems to be a standard English abbreviation either alone (see OED) or in RSA (Republic of SA). I realise that is a different issue from the general acceptability of such clues. I have nothing against this one, but agree that less well known single letter ones may cause trouble.

]]> By: PeterO http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/08/guardian-25240-puck-everything-and-then-some-more/#comment-149868 PeterO Tue, 08 Feb 2011 23:26:51 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=26243#comment-149868 I cannot pass by this excellent crossword without making note of a different kind of misleading surface. How about 7D’s “Showing love for English”?

]]> By: Martin H http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/08/guardian-25240-puck-everything-and-then-some-more/#comment-149861 Martin H Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:10:11 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=26243#comment-149861 No, I see I was sidetracked by Uncle Yap’s commentary: South Africa doesn’t enter into it. Still iffy though.

]]> By: Carrots http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/08/guardian-25240-puck-everything-and-then-some-more/#comment-149860 Carrots Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:05:36 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=26243#comment-149860 What a delightful day! Pintas of Everard`s Tiger to wash down faggots, peas and mash, accompanied by Puck`s puzzle, stiff with Ahh! moments. To crown it all, the Cheese Shop in Melton was celebrating 100 years of Stilton Cheese-making with a half-price offer on the luscious stuff. So, tonight, to accompany it, out came the Vintage Port and to hell with Cholesterol Counts.

I retire to bed a happy and contented chappy. If (as I suspect it might) Gout tries to avenge this insult to my carcass, I will zap it in the bud with NSAIDS, which my Quack has kindly provided for just such an eventuality. He`s long given up on Health & Efficiency remedies, knowing only too well I`ll only cheat.

Thanks UY …and especially Puck: see you again SOON!

]]> By: Martin H http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/08/guardian-25240-puck-everything-and-then-some-more/#comment-149859 Martin H Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:02:55 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=26243#comment-149859 Hi Sil, if you’re still there – I share your unease about D, F etc defined as ‘country’. In any case, the equivalent vehicle code for South Africa is ZA, which is also its internet domain code. SA refers in both code systems to Saudi Arabia. I don’t think that clears anything up – quite the reverse, it puts another ? against the clue.

Being nit-picky, I don’t think E does mean ‘lower-class’; it means ‘lower’ when applied to class, which is not the same thing.

]]> By: Sil van den Hoek http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/08/guardian-25240-puck-everything-and-then-some-more/#comment-149852 Sil van den Hoek Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:50:10 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=26243#comment-149852 Indeed, one Cameron is surely enough (for some) and indeed, poor old Di – but we thought 8d (DIE FLEDERMAUS) was a terrific clue. I don’t agree with Uncle Yap that the use of America for US would have enhanced the surface.

The only one we didn’t understand was the much-mentioned UNDER THE MILK WOOD, but many thanks to Dr G (whoever he is).

An overdose of good clues (like 1ac, 9d and 4d (ANARCHY) in particular).

I know we had a discussion on a similar thing a long time ago, but I still can’t get used to E meaning ‘lower-class’, although I remember someone explaining me why it was. But I forgot … :)
And if I had to be nitpicky (but I don’t want to), I wasn’t extremely happy with SA for just ‘country’. It didn’t stand in the way to find THERESA, but what would one think of D, F or I being defined as ‘country’?

Very clever crossword, a delight to solve.
Not too hard, just very satisfying!

]]> By: gm4hqf http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/08/guardian-25240-puck-everything-and-then-some-more/#comment-149851 gm4hqf Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:29:27 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=26243#comment-149851 Managed to finish the crossword but had to wait for Uncle Yap to explain some of the answers. Quite tough.

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