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	<title>Comments on: Guardian Prize 25,244 by Araucaria</title>
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	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
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		<title>By: PeeDee</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/02/19/guardian-prize-25244-by-araucaria/#comment-151440</link>
		<dc:creator>PeeDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done Dan!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Dan!</p>
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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tupu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ps With that point sorted, the clue is much more in line with Araucaria&#039;s usual interest in detail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps With that point sorted, the clue is much more in line with Araucaria&#8217;s usual interest in detail.</p>
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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tupu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Roger

Very many thanks. Now we are getting somewhere! I am sure that is the solution and &#039;south&#039; has nothing to do with it. I did not realise that Alice was in the NT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roger</p>
<p>Very many thanks. Now we are getting somewhere! I am sure that is the solution and &#8216;south&#8217; has nothing to do with it. I did not realise that Alice was in the NT.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hurrah!  After 2.5 years of regular trying (before which I lived in a certain antipodean nation, which may have helped with this particular one), this has finally become the first Araucaria crossword I&#039;ve finished - long time coming, but a great satisfaction.  Thanks to the Rev. for years of fun and frustration!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurrah!  After 2.5 years of regular trying (before which I lived in a certain antipodean nation, which may have helped with this particular one), this has finally become the first Araucaria crossword I&#8217;ve finished &#8211; long time coming, but a great satisfaction.  Thanks to the Rev. for years of fun and frustration!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi tupu. Administratively speaking, Alice would indeed &lt;i&gt;come under&lt;/i&gt; Darwin, the state capital, so maybe that&#039;s another way of looking at it ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi tupu. Administratively speaking, Alice would indeed <i>come under</i> Darwin, the state capital, so maybe that&#8217;s another way of looking at it ?</p>
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		<title>By: PeeDee</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeeDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently, Dior liked dogs :(.  I found out he had a dog called Bobby that the &#039;bobby dress&#039; is named after.  Oh well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, Dior liked dogs <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> .  I found out he had a dog called Bobby that the &#8216;bobby dress&#8217; is named after.  Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Robi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PeeDee @14; was &lt;a href=&quot;http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsNdE5YZGXq7O3PkUXL5KMqsmRmXKbpj9GNr9wQ7F4aqwr6dB9fQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this cat&lt;/a&gt;  what you were looking for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PeeDee @14; was <a href="http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsNdE5YZGXq7O3PkUXL5KMqsmRmXKbpj9GNr9wQ7F4aqwr6dB9fQ" rel="nofollow">this cat</a>  what you were looking for?</p>
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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tupu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Robi and Peedee

Robi, thanks. That seems to be the consensus, and I agree it is probably the most convincing answer.

Peedee. I suppose we just must disagree. The clue was not difficult to solve because Alice (Springs) is well known from the novel and film as an Australian town. But it is, I think, extremely vague. My disquiet relates to the following combined points:
1. &#039;Coming under&#039; at least implies motion which is not the best sort of idiom for describing a geographical location.
2. As I said &#039;the foregoing&#039; might in theory refer to Darwin or Darwin plus the other towns or even just the other towns.
3. The clue seems to be an extreme case of one where the answer is obvious but how it relates to the surface is a real conundrum. Orlando&#039;s clue for &#039;rheas&#039; on Friday was superficially a bit like this but made very exact sense when scrutinised closely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robi and Peedee</p>
<p>Robi, thanks. That seems to be the consensus, and I agree it is probably the most convincing answer.</p>
<p>Peedee. I suppose we just must disagree. The clue was not difficult to solve because Alice (Springs) is well known from the novel and film as an Australian town. But it is, I think, extremely vague. My disquiet relates to the following combined points:<br />
1. &#8216;Coming under&#8217; at least implies motion which is not the best sort of idiom for describing a geographical location.<br />
2. As I said &#8216;the foregoing&#8217; might in theory refer to Darwin or Darwin plus the other towns or even just the other towns.<br />
3. The clue seems to be an extreme case of one where the answer is obvious but how it relates to the surface is a real conundrum. Orlando&#8217;s clue for &#8216;rheas&#8217; on Friday was superficially a bit like this but made very exact sense when scrutinised closely.</p>
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		<title>By: PeeDee</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeeDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re 23dn ALICE, having re-read all the comments I still can&#039;t see what&#039;s so wrong with this clue. A bit easy maybe, but other than than seems just fine to me!

AndyB@32 - I know just what you mean about the phrase &#039;Tea Gardens&#039;, brings an air of peace and contentment - a place where nothing realy bad could ever happen.  I immediately thought of John Betjemin on solving this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 23dn ALICE, having re-read all the comments I still can&#8217;t see what&#8217;s so wrong with this clue. A bit easy maybe, but other than than seems just fine to me!</p>
<p>AndyB@32 &#8211; I know just what you mean about the phrase &#8216;Tea Gardens&#8217;, brings an air of peace and contentment &#8211; a place where nothing realy bad could ever happen.  I immediately thought of John Betjemin on solving this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Robi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tupu @30; I took &#039;the foregoing&#039; as a reference to the previous clue i.e. to DARWIN. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tupu @30; I took &#8216;the foregoing&#8217; as a reference to the previous clue i.e. to DARWIN. <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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