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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whew.  A week later and I gave up with two to go, and a few still in pencil.  Brutal puzzle, glad nobody posted spoilers on the ensuing blogs.

Thanks Uncle Yap for explaining what I did get, and Boatman for a very strange trip.

I did enjoy the theme and the many twisted ways it was used, which sort of justified (?) some of the loose cluing elsewhere...

Message to our dear editor, Hugh: &quot;this should have been a Thursday or Friday, if not a Prize, puzzle&quot;.

By the way, I spent two or three days staring at 3 solved clues, getting nowhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew.  A week later and I gave up with two to go, and a few still in pencil.  Brutal puzzle, glad nobody posted spoilers on the ensuing blogs.</p>
<p>Thanks Uncle Yap for explaining what I did get, and Boatman for a very strange trip.</p>
<p>I did enjoy the theme and the many twisted ways it was used, which sort of justified (?) some of the loose cluing elsewhere&#8230;</p>
<p>Message to our dear editor, Hugh: &#8220;this should have been a Thursday or Friday, if not a Prize, puzzle&#8221;.</p>
<p>By the way, I spent two or three days staring at 3 solved clues, getting nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Boatman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boatman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Late greetings, all. I was overly occupied on Tuesday and forgot to check in to see how you were enjoying the (cross)piece, otherwise I might have joined in the discussion on double-duty words. In the end, Tupu explained my way of thinking pretty clearly. Also, it was good to see that Roger noted my throw-away remark last time about the return of the ness ...

One thing that I can&#039;t take credit for: I was stunned to hear that Tuesday was Dickie Bird&#039;s birthday - not the first interesting co-incidence that&#039;s happened since I started compiling. Clueing, it seems, moves in mysterious ways.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late greetings, all. I was overly occupied on Tuesday and forgot to check in to see how you were enjoying the (cross)piece, otherwise I might have joined in the discussion on double-duty words. In the end, Tupu explained my way of thinking pretty clearly. Also, it was good to see that Roger noted my throw-away remark last time about the return of the ness &#8230;</p>
<p>One thing that I can&#8217;t take credit for: I was stunned to hear that Tuesday was Dickie Bird&#8217;s birthday &#8211; not the first interesting co-incidence that&#8217;s happened since I started compiling. Clueing, it seems, moves in mysterious ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Fallowfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fallowfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was an excellent example of a puzzle crucified on a theme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an excellent example of a puzzle crucified on a theme.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We almost got there, with many misgivings along the way - 10ac being one of the first to be guessed but last to be entered - but gave up with two unsolved: 14ac and 15dn.  SAMPLE was obvious, but TRIAL as a synonym for &#039;cross&#039;?  Too obscure, I feel.  In spite of our reasoning correctly that ATTER must figure in 15dn somehow, and even after I hesitantly suggested WIT for &#039;satirist&#039;, we failed to come up with ATWITTER (not a word we often use). However, we were heartened to find that Eileen, our lodestone and guiding star, also gave up, which to us confirms that this puzzle, though containing some gems, was ultimately flawed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We almost got there, with many misgivings along the way &#8211; 10ac being one of the first to be guessed but last to be entered &#8211; but gave up with two unsolved: 14ac and 15dn.  SAMPLE was obvious, but TRIAL as a synonym for &#8216;cross&#8217;?  Too obscure, I feel.  In spite of our reasoning correctly that ATTER must figure in 15dn somehow, and even after I hesitantly suggested WIT for &#8216;satirist&#8217;, we failed to come up with ATWITTER (not a word we often use). However, we were heartened to find that Eileen, our lodestone and guiding star, also gave up, which to us confirms that this puzzle, though containing some gems, was ultimately flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: Radchenko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radchenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 23:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog and the explanations.

Thanks also to everyone who could not finish it. It is always good to know you are not alone.

Frankly I&#039;ve been feeling like I&#039;ve had some kind of brain injury in the last few weeks. The puzzles seem to have been getting harder and I&#039;m solving fewer and giving up up on some, like today&#039;s, hardly half way through. Some of the weekday puzzles are harder than the prize crossword or the Genius, I have found.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog and the explanations.</p>
<p>Thanks also to everyone who could not finish it. It is always good to know you are not alone.</p>
<p>Frankly I&#8217;ve been feeling like I&#8217;ve had some kind of brain injury in the last few weeks. The puzzles seem to have been getting harder and I&#8217;m solving fewer and giving up up on some, like today&#8217;s, hardly half way through. Some of the weekday puzzles are harder than the prize crossword or the Genius, I have found.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 23:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for &#039;bafflegab&#039; Gaufrid ... what a lovely word (and what a mouthful of a definition !)

Found this a clever and ultimately enjoyable puzzle despite sailing through some pretty choppy waters. Especially liked &lt;i&gt;isthmus&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;ostrich&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;bulletin&lt;/i&gt;.

Learning last time of your interest in old buildings, Boatman, I thought we may have had a &#039;transom&#039; or perhaps a &#039;transept&#039; ... but &#039;ness&#039; made a return as promised so thanks for that and for a great puzzle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for &#8216;bafflegab&#8217; Gaufrid &#8230; what a lovely word (and what a mouthful of a definition !)</p>
<p>Found this a clever and ultimately enjoyable puzzle despite sailing through some pretty choppy waters. Especially liked <i>isthmus</i>, <i>ostrich</i> and <i>bulletin</i>.</p>
<p>Learning last time of your interest in old buildings, Boatman, I thought we may have had a &#8216;transom&#8217; or perhaps a &#8216;transept&#8217; &#8230; but &#8216;ness&#8217; made a return as promised so thanks for that and for a great puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: taxi phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>taxi phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 22:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank goodness for this blog ! I&#039;m just home after working a 15 hour day, in the slack times of which I&#039;ve read two papers and done the puzzles (or not as we shall see !)

Boatman&#039;s offering was the last thing I went to to. I expected a challenge - I DIDN&#039;T expect to meet my Waterloo ! I knew it wasn&#039;t brain failure, as I&#039;d already done The Times puzzle in about 8 minutes.

I must have spent a good two and a half hours over this beast (in sessions of between 5 and 20 minutes per visit) and finished less than half the puzzle. It didn&#039;t help that I failed to crack 6/22, and that I didn&#039;t translate &quot;Ostrich&quot; despite seeing the anagrind (no wonder I couldn&#039;t justify &quot;chorist&quot; !)

8 was totally unknown to me, I saw &quot;chapel&quot; but didn&#039;t enter it because I couldn&#039;t see the wordplay, failed lamentably to identify what should have been a simple one in &quot;ludo&quot;, and couldn&#039;t prefix &quot;sample&quot; (&quot;trial&quot; was rather apposite !)

I didn&#039;t get (and wouldn&#039;t have got) &quot;thwart&quot; either.

I was prepared to be very critical of this puzzle, but thanks to the excellent blog I&#039;ll hold my hands up and say &quot;Well done Boatman - you totally outsmarted me this time !&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness for this blog ! I&#8217;m just home after working a 15 hour day, in the slack times of which I&#8217;ve read two papers and done the puzzles (or not as we shall see !)</p>
<p>Boatman&#8217;s offering was the last thing I went to to. I expected a challenge &#8211; I DIDN&#8217;T expect to meet my Waterloo ! I knew it wasn&#8217;t brain failure, as I&#8217;d already done The Times puzzle in about 8 minutes.</p>
<p>I must have spent a good two and a half hours over this beast (in sessions of between 5 and 20 minutes per visit) and finished less than half the puzzle. It didn&#8217;t help that I failed to crack 6/22, and that I didn&#8217;t translate &#8220;Ostrich&#8221; despite seeing the anagrind (no wonder I couldn&#8217;t justify &#8220;chorist&#8221; !)</p>
<p>8 was totally unknown to me, I saw &#8220;chapel&#8221; but didn&#8217;t enter it because I couldn&#8217;t see the wordplay, failed lamentably to identify what should have been a simple one in &#8220;ludo&#8221;, and couldn&#8217;t prefix &#8220;sample&#8221; (&#8220;trial&#8221; was rather apposite !)</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get (and wouldn&#8217;t have got) &#8220;thwart&#8221; either.</p>
<p>I was prepared to be very critical of this puzzle, but thanks to the excellent blog I&#8217;ll hold my hands up and say &#8220;Well done Boatman &#8211; you totally outsmarted me this time !&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Carrots</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 22:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not many puzzles recently that I`ve had to cheat with in order to get a start. I chose TRIAL SAMPLE and the clue to this solution alone should have sent me to bed in a darkened room, nursing a migraine. Foolishly, I persisted, and before it was put to bed after a couple of joyless hours, I felt that I`d lost a friend (Boatman) who has entertained and bedevilled us so joyously in the past.

Maybe it was the quasi-religious theme, maybe it was the liberties taken in the clue-ing, or maybe it was just a case of a setter more focussed on confounding solvers rather than bewitching or seducing them.....whatever it was, this puzzle now enjoys pride of place on my dart-board. 

So, if you wake up in the night Boatman, with pangs of pain from well targeted arrows, `tis only I, returning the compliment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not many puzzles recently that I`ve had to cheat with in order to get a start. I chose TRIAL SAMPLE and the clue to this solution alone should have sent me to bed in a darkened room, nursing a migraine. Foolishly, I persisted, and before it was put to bed after a couple of joyless hours, I felt that I`d lost a friend (Boatman) who has entertained and bedevilled us so joyously in the past.</p>
<p>Maybe it was the quasi-religious theme, maybe it was the liberties taken in the clue-ing, or maybe it was just a case of a setter more focussed on confounding solvers rather than bewitching or seducing them&#8230;..whatever it was, this puzzle now enjoys pride of place on my dart-board. </p>
<p>So, if you wake up in the night Boatman, with pangs of pain from well targeted arrows, `tis only I, returning the compliment.</p>
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		<title>By: PeeDee</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeeDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Gaufrid, I needed your aid for the last couple of entires, very tough.  

I thought Boatman traded off some tighness in the clueing to get good surfaces in this puzzle.  The surfaces were very good, I was immediately hooked by some of the clues, especially the leading clue 7 across which I just had to try and solve immediately.  I can forgive bending of the rules when it results in an interesting and intriguing puzzle.  I think that a talented setter taking liberties for effect is not the same thing as a weakly constructed puzzle from a poor setter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gaufrid, I needed your aid for the last couple of entires, very tough.  </p>
<p>I thought Boatman traded off some tighness in the clueing to get good surfaces in this puzzle.  The surfaces were very good, I was immediately hooked by some of the clues, especially the leading clue 7 across which I just had to try and solve immediately.  I can forgive bending of the rules when it results in an interesting and intriguing puzzle.  I think that a talented setter taking liberties for effect is not the same thing as a weakly constructed puzzle from a poor setter.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thought this was pretty awful for the most part. Overly complex constructions and some very tenuous synonyms (&quot;wit&quot; does not equal &quot;satirist&quot; as Martin H points out). Didn&#039;t like the theme either. Too clever and no fun. Struggled to complete 3/4 of it then gave it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought this was pretty awful for the most part. Overly complex constructions and some very tenuous synonyms (&#8220;wit&#8221; does not equal &#8220;satirist&#8221; as Martin H points out). Didn&#8217;t like the theme either. Too clever and no fun. Struggled to complete 3/4 of it then gave it.</p>
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