Comments on: Independent 7646 by Radian

By: Colin Blackburn

Colin Blackburn — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:41:05 +0000

To bring this back to crosswords the same problem does not exist since they are two-dimensional objects. Certain Listener puzzles may break this!

By: Colin Blackburn

Colin Blackburn — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:38:50 +0000

I don’t think Thomass99′s point is obvious at all. The inscription on the coins edge is neither clockwise nor anticlockwise if you look at the edge. If you look at the coin from above you could say it is anticlockwise, if you look at the coin from below you could say it is clockwise. The direction depends entirely on which way you view the coin. To put it another way: If you look edge-on you need to rotate the coin to read the text letter by letter. If you rotate the coin from above you would rotate it clockwise. If you rotate the coin from below you would rotate it anticlockwise. The direction of rotation is relative to the frame of viewing.

By: Allan_C

Allan_C — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 13:45:31 +0000

Clockwise or anticlockwise? The point being made is that if you hold a coin edge-on to read the inscription, the coin may be obverse up or obverse down – i.e.coins are not minted with the orientation of the inscription fixed relative to the obverse and reverse. (Actually most of the pounds in my pocket today have got the inscription ‘Pleidiol wyf i’m gwlad’)

By: Scarpia

Scarpia — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:57:18 +0000

Thanks all,for your help.
Thomas99 – A very good point and obvious now you mention it.
3 dimensional thinking is not my strong point!

By: Thomas99

Thomas99 — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:43:33 +0000

A bit late to chime in, but how on earth could you write something on the milled edge of a coin from left to right and NOT have it going anticlockwise?!

By: Allan_C

Allan_C — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 07:11:06 +0000

Colin @10 and 3
The inscription can run either way; probably something to do with the minting process. Not that I spotted the nina.
And I too spent ages trying to make 4a some sort of tea – until I got ‘mighty’ for 3dn and got all the crossing letters.

By: Colin Blackburn

Colin Blackburn — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:53:22 +0000

The inscription runs both ways, it depends whether you look at the coin from the obverse or reverse! From the obverse it runs clockwise and the letters are the right way up. From the reverse the letters are upside down. So if I had to plump for one then I’d say it runs clockwise. However, this is based on a sample of one.

By: Scarpia

Scarpia — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 22:54:10 +0000

Thanks flashling.
Nice puzzle to round off a very good crossword day.
A bit easier than the other 2 but still a good challenge.
The surface to 5 down was very clever ,if unpleasant!
The grid cried out ‘Nina’ which I had to Google to find,I suppose the inscription on UK pound coins runs anti clockwise as well.I can’t check as we still use paper Pound notes here in Guernsey.

By: nmsindy

nmsindy — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 22:42:46 +0000

Not sure about that, Joins at #7. The clue was “Like 11, team takes heed rejecting odds”. 11 in the puzzle was ERRATA. If the wordplay is ED (heed rejecting odds = HEED ignoring letters in odd-numbered positions) in UNITED (team), “Like 11″ looks as if it has to be the definition.

It made be think of books, not fully edited, in which it was necessary to give a slip with ERRATA.

By: Joins

Joins — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:27:12 +0000

I think the 11 in the clue for UNEDITED just refers to a football team rather than the answer to 11 across.