Comments on: Financial Times 13,679 / Neo

By: Neo

Neo — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:31:28 +0000

That bit is Erhard Seminars Training = est, which has an entry in Chambers and in the archives of several cult awareness groups! It’s called The Forum now, as far as I know (which is quite far, because I went through the experience for myself in 1993).

By: Abby

Abby — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:57:54 +0000

Right, I’m sure the est is “est Standard Training” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Seminars_Training). It’s very much from the 70s, and the other is usually called ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) anyway.

By: walruss

walruss — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:41:51 +0000

Agreed! An excellent puzzle with a good spot, I thought, about parallels with Wales, Shakespeare, Middleton and Minola.

Another point for the blogger, EST was Erhard Seminar Training, popular in the 70s as a self-improvement course that actually sent a good fwe people mad, as I recall.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:27:14 +0000

Many thanks Smiffy

This was a joy!

Thanks Neo – you are certainly the One (anagram) to watch.

By: jmac

jmac — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:20:55 +0000

Sorry Gaufrid, our postings crossed (your explanation is more complete anyway).

By: jmac

jmac — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:19:04 +0000

Impeccable cluing, nice touches of humour, one new word (TARADIDDLE – and what a good one), held up for a bit by SOVIETISES, loved PERSONAL; what a lovely way to pass my commute. Thanks to Neo and to Smiffy. BTW Chambers gives “Carl” as a churl.

By: tony welsh

tony welsh — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:13:45 +0000

Sorry, finger trouble. Finished quite quickly for me. In explanation of 27d I think you mean that “white horse” is poetic………

By: tony welsh

tony welsh — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:09:13 +0000

Finihed this

By: Gaufrid

Gaufrid — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:08:49 +0000

Thanks smiffy
In 2dn, ‘carl’ is not being used as the name of a person. Chambers defines ‘carl’ as “a churl” which in turn is defined as “an ill-bred, surly fellow” or as clued ‘a rude man’.