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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/05/26/guardian-25332-philistine/#comment-159946</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 02:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, a grand welcome to &quot;Philistine&quot;, and thank you Eileen for the blog.

I found a lot of fun here, but then I love anagrams, and there were a lot of them.

I really liked: the tricky anagram indicator at 5, the clue I didn&#039;t solve at 12, the wonderful 19, the nice surface at 4, and the puzzle in general.

Perhaps this was not Thursday fodder, but &quot;difficulty&quot; is hard for the editor to judge given the wide range of solvers&#039; knowledge and talents.  Oh, I also liked 13.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a grand welcome to &#8220;Philistine&#8221;, and thank you Eileen for the blog.</p>
<p>I found a lot of fun here, but then I love anagrams, and there were a lot of them.</p>
<p>I really liked: the tricky anagram indicator at 5, the clue I didn&#8217;t solve at 12, the wonderful 19, the nice surface at 4, and the puzzle in general.</p>
<p>Perhaps this was not Thursday fodder, but &#8220;difficulty&#8221; is hard for the editor to judge given the wide range of solvers&#8217; knowledge and talents.  Oh, I also liked 13.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 19:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At last a new setter with a &#039;new&#039; thought out name.

Well done sir. Great puzzle

Jake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last a new setter with a &#8216;new&#8217; thought out name.</p>
<p>Well done sir. Great puzzle</p>
<p>Jake.</p>
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		<title>By: otter</title>
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		<dc:creator>otter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 23:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I forgot to say earlier that I really liked the use of Mars as an anagram indicator in the context of the surface of 5a. 

And I&#039;ve never seen &#039;Gidday&#039; - only &#039;G&#039;day&#039;.
&#039;Ö&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I forgot to say earlier that I really liked the use of Mars as an anagram indicator in the context of the surface of 5a. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve never seen &#8216;Gidday&#8217; &#8211; only &#8216;G&#8217;day&#8217;.<br />
&#8216;Ö&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Scarpia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scarpia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 22:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thought our new setter might have been the well known homophone,so tried Google - unbelieveable,are these people real? I blame the parents.
http://tinyurl.com/3pepekh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought our new setter might have been the well known homophone,so tried Google &#8211; unbelieveable,are these people real? I blame the parents.<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/3pepekh" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/3pepekh</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/05/26/guardian-25332-philistine/#comment-159842</link>
		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, a warm welcome to Philistine!
Even though Hugh Stephenson said, last November, that there&#039;s no opportunity for new setters in the next seven years, things seem to have changed. Only recently Tramp surprised us with a rewarding puzzle, now there&#039;s Philistine. 
Is (s)he new? It&#039;s not Phi in disguise, isn&#039;t (s)he?

It&#039;s after ten o&#039;clock on this Thursday night and there&#039;s still no post by the (wo)man h(im/er)self. That&#039;s a real pity.

My overall feeling is that Philistine didn&#039;t live up to his potential today. The problem with a statement like this is that I&#039;m not sure whether (s)he&#039;s a newby or not.
One feels the dedication in the writing of the clues, a good spread of devices, fine surfaces etc. But these clues deserved more depth. For example, 5ac (NERVOUS) was very well (and originally) constructed (although I would have tried to find an astronomic definition), but the answer was there within 10 seconds. It was just a real shame to see so many good clues being spoiled by their obvious solutions.

On the minus side, we weren&#039;t happy with the definition in 14ac (PRESCRIBE) [or was it an attempt to write an &amp;Lit?]. My PinC in particular didn&#039;t like the order of things in 16ac: &#039;missing a&#039; coming before &#039;greeting etc&#039;, while it reads like it should be linked with &#039;Frivolous&#039;. We both thought &#039;undead&#039; in the clue for 8d was too similar to the answer (UNAIDED).

On the plus side, we were very happy with 9d (MIXED BLESSING) [she] and 6d (EASTER) [me]. And with 5ac, 11ac and 7d.

I have to be careful with what I&#039;m saying (as I try to compile myself every now and then), but eventually I think the cluing as such was nice, however just not challenging enough.
See what happens next time.

As I said a warm welcome, but also 9d.

[thanks, Eileen]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, a warm welcome to Philistine!<br />
Even though Hugh Stephenson said, last November, that there&#8217;s no opportunity for new setters in the next seven years, things seem to have changed. Only recently Tramp surprised us with a rewarding puzzle, now there&#8217;s Philistine.<br />
Is (s)he new? It&#8217;s not Phi in disguise, isn&#8217;t (s)he?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s after ten o&#8217;clock on this Thursday night and there&#8217;s still no post by the (wo)man h(im/er)self. That&#8217;s a real pity.</p>
<p>My overall feeling is that Philistine didn&#8217;t live up to his potential today. The problem with a statement like this is that I&#8217;m not sure whether (s)he&#8217;s a newby or not.<br />
One feels the dedication in the writing of the clues, a good spread of devices, fine surfaces etc. But these clues deserved more depth. For example, 5ac (NERVOUS) was very well (and originally) constructed (although I would have tried to find an astronomic definition), but the answer was there within 10 seconds. It was just a real shame to see so many good clues being spoiled by their obvious solutions.</p>
<p>On the minus side, we weren&#8217;t happy with the definition in 14ac (PRESCRIBE) [or was it an attempt to write an &amp;Lit?]. My PinC in particular didn&#8217;t like the order of things in 16ac: &#8216;missing a&#8217; coming before &#8216;greeting etc&#8217;, while it reads like it should be linked with &#8216;Frivolous&#8217;. We both thought &#8216;undead&#8217; in the clue for 8d was too similar to the answer (UNAIDED).</p>
<p>On the plus side, we were very happy with 9d (MIXED BLESSING) [she] and 6d (EASTER) [me]. And with 5ac, 11ac and 7d.</p>
<p>I have to be careful with what I&#8217;m saying (as I try to compile myself every now and then), but eventually I think the cluing as such was nice, however just not challenging enough.<br />
See what happens next time.</p>
<p>As I said a warm welcome, but also 9d.</p>
<p>[thanks, Eileen]</p>
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		<title>By: morpheus</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitely a welcome appearance from a new setter.  A lot of very nice surfaces which compensated for some easy clues and slightly too many anagrams for my taste.  Still managed to get stuck on vehemence.  

And more strayan please!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a welcome appearance from a new setter.  A lot of very nice surfaces which compensated for some easy clues and slightly too many anagrams for my taste.  Still managed to get stuck on vehemence.  </p>
<p>And more strayan please!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ellison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ellison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 19:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was in hospital for the day, so was pleased to finish an unaided crossword. Whilst I found it reasonably straightforward, there was originality (Mars as anagrind, and, for me 9d - great clue)I had the feeling that P. should mature into something very decent after another outing or two.

I remember having abalone in Chinese restaurants in the 60s in Lancaster and Oxford, possibly Manchester and Wilmslow, too, but I don&#039;t know if Chines restaurants still do it, as we don&#039;t visit them any more because of excess MSG. It ruined our wedding night and the first anniversary, with trips to hospital to have the rash sorted out each time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in hospital for the day, so was pleased to finish an unaided crossword. Whilst I found it reasonably straightforward, there was originality (Mars as anagrind, and, for me 9d &#8211; great clue)I had the feeling that P. should mature into something very decent after another outing or two.</p>
<p>I remember having abalone in Chinese restaurants in the 60s in Lancaster and Oxford, possibly Manchester and Wilmslow, too, but I don&#8217;t know if Chines restaurants still do it, as we don&#8217;t visit them any more because of excess MSG. It ruined our wedding night and the first anniversary, with trips to hospital to have the rash sorted out each time.</p>
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		<title>By: scchua</title>
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		<dc:creator>scchua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 18:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eileen for the blog and Philistine for a great debut puzzle.

Don&#039;t normally do the current Guardian, but got stuck on today&#039;s Indy and wanted to try out the NKOTB. I fall the camp that found it moderately difficult, with expressions that I know of, but hadn&#039;t encountered before or wasn&#039;t expecting in a crossword, but which was what made this puzzle enjoyable.

I liked EYE CANDY, VEHEMENCE and GO COMMANDO.

Re ABALONE, this is a delicacy ie. high-priced out here and I remember having it (canned from Mexico) on special occasions like the New Year family re-union dinners.  Like most shellfish, it&#039;s sweetest eaten off the shell.  As a footnote, I recall about 10+ years ago, reading a food critic (I think, but can&#039;t be sure, that it was the acerbic A A Gill of the Sunday Times) describing the texture of abalone.  I can&#039;t locate the original article, but suffice to say that it was much risque-er than GO COMMANDO but in the same general area, if you get my drift.  Those who&#039;ve had a taste of it might be familiar with it.  Also suffice to say, if it were A A Gill, he&#039;s won the Bad Sex Award in Literature :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eileen for the blog and Philistine for a great debut puzzle.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t normally do the current Guardian, but got stuck on today&#8217;s Indy and wanted to try out the NKOTB. I fall the camp that found it moderately difficult, with expressions that I know of, but hadn&#8217;t encountered before or wasn&#8217;t expecting in a crossword, but which was what made this puzzle enjoyable.</p>
<p>I liked EYE CANDY, VEHEMENCE and GO COMMANDO.</p>
<p>Re ABALONE, this is a delicacy ie. high-priced out here and I remember having it (canned from Mexico) on special occasions like the New Year family re-union dinners.  Like most shellfish, it&#8217;s sweetest eaten off the shell.  As a footnote, I recall about 10+ years ago, reading a food critic (I think, but can&#8217;t be sure, that it was the acerbic A A Gill of the Sunday Times) describing the texture of abalone.  I can&#8217;t locate the original article, but suffice to say that it was much risque-er than GO COMMANDO but in the same general area, if you get my drift.  Those who&#8217;ve had a taste of it might be familiar with it.  Also suffice to say, if it were A A Gill, he&#8217;s won the Bad Sex Award in Literature <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 18:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi All

I&#039;ve had a very busy day so must apologise for not having welcomed superkiwigirl @13 [thanks, chas @17] - great to hear from you! 

I&#039;m fascinated by how much correspondence ABALONE has generated, after all its appearances! Thanks for all the tips and recipes: I&#039;ll certainly look out for them in Leicester fish market, Carrots! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a very busy day so must apologise for not having welcomed superkiwigirl @13 [thanks, chas @17] &#8211; great to hear from you! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m fascinated by how much correspondence ABALONE has generated, after all its appearances! Thanks for all the tips and recipes: I&#8217;ll certainly look out for them in Leicester fish market, Carrots! <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rrc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 16:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I quite like crosswords where I understand the clue on the first reading!
quite the reverse from yesterdays offering from my favourite compiler who wasnt yesterday    I thought this was straightforward a number of clues caused me to smile which has got to be a bonus and radio I did not workout til late this afternoon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite like crosswords where I understand the clue on the first reading!<br />
quite the reverse from yesterdays offering from my favourite compiler who wasnt yesterday    I thought this was straightforward a number of clues caused me to smile which has got to be a bonus and radio I did not workout til late this afternoon.</p>
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