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	<title>Comments on: Guardian Quiptic 602 Don Putnam</title>
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		<title>By: crosser</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/05/30/guardian-quiptic-602-don-putnam/#comment-160521</link>
		<dc:creator>crosser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 18:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks scchua for a very clear blog. I put in FLAUNTED for 18d but felt that was pushing it a bit for &quot;displayed emotion&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks scchua for a very clear blog. I put in FLAUNTED for 18d but felt that was pushing it a bit for &#8220;displayed emotion&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Lazenby</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/05/30/guardian-quiptic-602-don-putnam/#comment-160201</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Lazenby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 16:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still not doing much on the PC so this was appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still not doing much on the PC so this was appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Robi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 16:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Don; I thought this was about right for a Quiptic and definitely easier than the Cryptic.

Nice pictorial blog scchua; my last in was FENCES, which I thought was a good clue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Don; I thought this was about right for a Quiptic and definitely easier than the Cryptic.</p>
<p>Nice pictorial blog scchua; my last in was FENCES, which I thought was a good clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Tokyo Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tokyo Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 12:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks scchua for the very thorough blog.

I found this to be uneven in difficulty and as a result it took me about as long as the cryptic (although that yielded very quickly for me today.)  For example, at 7ac I was looking for abbreviated synonyms of beer and fiesta (lagefest anyone?) and it took a while to realise how simple it really was. 21 dn was the same.

But then 12 ac required me to dredge GNOSIS from the archives of my memory, &quot;very tired&quot; to BATTERED is quite a stretch and I didn&#039;t know ARNE or Mrs Mopp.  So I felt whiplashed between too easy and (temporary)bewilderment.  I would be interested to hear what a true beginner/Quiptic target solver thought of this.

Re 6dn, because of the &quot;first&quot; in the clue, I presumed this meant SU (us reversed) replaced the first E in Ellen.  But I have since discovered that Ellen, unlike the less likely Nell, is not a variant of Eleanor.  So I agree with your parsing and the conclusion that &quot;first&quot; is redundant and confusing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks scchua for the very thorough blog.</p>
<p>I found this to be uneven in difficulty and as a result it took me about as long as the cryptic (although that yielded very quickly for me today.)  For example, at 7ac I was looking for abbreviated synonyms of beer and fiesta (lagefest anyone?) and it took a while to realise how simple it really was. 21 dn was the same.</p>
<p>But then 12 ac required me to dredge GNOSIS from the archives of my memory, &#8220;very tired&#8221; to BATTERED is quite a stretch and I didn&#8217;t know ARNE or Mrs Mopp.  So I felt whiplashed between too easy and (temporary)bewilderment.  I would be interested to hear what a true beginner/Quiptic target solver thought of this.</p>
<p>Re 6dn, because of the &#8220;first&#8221; in the clue, I presumed this meant SU (us reversed) replaced the first E in Ellen.  But I have since discovered that Ellen, unlike the less likely Nell, is not a variant of Eleanor.  So I agree with your parsing and the conclusion that &#8220;first&#8221; is redundant and confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Stella Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stella Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 11:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, Scchua, I just thought he might consider that newcomers could do with a little extra direction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Scchua, I just thought he might consider that newcomers could do with a little extra direction.</p>
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		<title>By: scchua</title>
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		<dc:creator>scchua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 11:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Stella.  6D, initially I had considered what you&#039;ve said, but then, &quot;retire&quot; applies to both NELL and US, and therefore &quot;first&quot; is out of place if it is to apply only to US.  In fact, it is redundant, as the clue works just as well without it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Stella.  6D, initially I had considered what you&#8217;ve said, but then, &#8220;retire&#8221; applies to both NELL and US, and therefore &#8220;first&#8221; is out of place if it is to apply only to US.  In fact, it is redundant, as the clue works just as well without it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 11:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, scchua, nice blog.

As Stella says, there can&#039;t be any complaints about a straightforward Quiptic this week.  All pretty sound, with some nice surfaces too, so well done and thanks to the setter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, scchua, nice blog.</p>
<p>As Stella says, there can&#8217;t be any complaints about a straightforward Quiptic this week.  All pretty sound, with some nice surfaces too, so well done and thanks to the setter.</p>
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		<title>By: Stella Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stella Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 11:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Scchua. There was certainly no mix-up with the cryptic this week!

At 6d, I think perhaps Mr Putnam wants to make very clear the instruction to put SU first.

Thanks for an easy sail, after I struggled a little with Brendan&#039;s offering]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Scchua. There was certainly no mix-up with the cryptic this week!</p>
<p>At 6d, I think perhaps Mr Putnam wants to make very clear the instruction to put SU first.</p>
<p>Thanks for an easy sail, after I struggled a little with Brendan&#8217;s offering</p>
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